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    Dippin' Dots
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Parsers are only useful if you have an actual understanding of the game and the tool itself. Some newbie isn't going to play better just because he uses ACT. Especially when most can't be bothered to read a skill description beyond it saying "this combos with this" so here's your 123 "rotation".

    Great tools in the right hands.
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    Last edited by dotsforlife; 10-28-2017 at 12:13 AM.
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Maybe instead of personal parsers we should ask for a ranked server that parses every encounter and uploads it to its ranking system. That way all the elitists who care about numbers and/or bettering themselves can go have at each others numbers all they want.

    A DPS section in the ranked PotD (SB version if it ever gets released) would also be acceptable. Personally I think if you can solo all the way to floor 200 you probably know how to play that class.
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZe View Post
    Maybe instead of personal parsers we should ask for a ranked server that parses every encounter and uploads it to its ranking system. That way all the elitists who care about numbers and/or bettering themselves can go have at each others numbers all they want.

    A DPS section in the ranked PotD (SB version if it ever gets released) would also be acceptable. Personally I think if you can solo all the way to floor 200 you probably know how to play that class.
    Congratulations, you don't understand anything what concerns people who want a parser. It has nothing to do with beeing a elitist to have the desire to get better and test new/different rotations.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Odin
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    Oh lord this topic again.

    In-game parsers wouldn't change a damn thing, bads would still continue to be bad and not give a damn.

    Just let it go.
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder View Post
    Oh lord this topic again.

    In-game parsers wouldn't change a damn thing, bads would still continue to be bad and not give a damn.

    Just let it go.
    Your post is a great example of the Casuals versus the Hardcores conflict I referred to in an earlier post. You call them bads; but, the reality is many of those players have different goals than you. They aren't playing the game competitively. They are just playing a game.

    Now, that doesn't mean you are wrong for playing the way you play. It just means you are looking at the situation in the wrong way. If you randomly group with players you should realize all of your group may not be looking at the game the same way you are. I feel the best solution is to form parties with like minded people, much like the original post suggested with its parser options.

    Shine on!
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    Hruodig Hruodiger
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Your post is a great example of the Casuals versus the Hardcores conflict I referred to in an earlier post. You call them bads; but, the reality is many of those players have different goals than you. They aren't playing the game competitively. They are just playing a game.

    Now, that doesn't mean you are wrong for playing the way you play. It just means you are looking at the situation in the wrong way. If you randomly group with players you should realize all of your group may not be looking at the game the same way you are. I feel the best solution is to form parties with like minded people, much like the original post suggested with its parser options.

    Shine on!
    Is the end goal for all content in the game not to clear the encounter? By reducing the boss's hp to 0?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
    Is the end goal for all content in the game not to clear the encounter? By reducing the boss's hp to 0?
    Of course! The difference is some players are more concerned about efficiency than others.

    Many players get a thrill out of bringing a boss's health to zero as fast as possible. They base their performance against the highest level of performance.

    Meanwhile, many other players are happy just being "good enough." If the boss dies, it's a win. See the difference?

    It's two ways of looking at an MMORPG. That's why parsers are such a hot topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hruodig View Post
    Is the end goal for all content in the game not to clear the encounter? By reducing the boss's hp to 0?
    nope, not all content requires a dead mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    nope, not all content requires a dead mob.
    Instanced content featuring combat mechanics, which is the meat of content that people do that you can't get elsewhere. Semantic enough for you?
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    Ninja Lv 76
    I am in the middle on parsers. I kinda wish I could meet someone who uses one by chance and run something with them to see if I'm decent...Sometimes I feel like I'm mopping the floor, then I run with others and see someone pull over 30K damage and it makes me feel...lower? I often wonder where I stand and wonder if I could do harder content. Then at the same time, like we all do, I have bad runs or bad days, not everyday of course, but I do slip up from time to time, but what if everyday is one of those "bad days" what if I just suck lol. So, idk...
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    Last edited by OMega_ARcane; 10-28-2017 at 03:42 AM.

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