In Regard to Housing in Patch 4.1

[StouterTaru]

What do you do when you reach rank 10 since you need a onion you can only get thru A-MB B-1 quest gives you 1 or C-crossbreed gardening...and you will need them from rank 10-20

Edit: my server there 220k each right now.

Find a personal house with an empty garden, ask the owner if he'll let you use his garden. You just need to be on his friend list with housing permissions. After you spend 5M growing 10 onions, you'll realize why they cost 220k on the MB.

[Abelfei]

Find a personal house with an empty garden, ask the owner if he'll let you use his garden. You just need to be on his friend list with housing permissions. After you spend 5M growing 10 onions, you'll realize why they cost 220k on the MB.

I don't understand why people spend ANY overhead within the context of gardening. I make bank, but I farm every seed and soil.

[StouterTaru]

I don't understand why people spend ANY overhead within the context of gardening. I make bank, but I farm every seed and soil.

My retainers farm them for me, except for unspoiled node seeds. Whether you call it overhead or not, you're using a decent amount of time and materials that you could have sold.

[Abelfei]

you're using a decent amount of time and materials that you could have sold.

Not really. Each node takes 30 seconds, and spread the amount needed throughout 5 days, which is the average cycle, it's not much at all. Some nodes can get up 15 seeds each gather cycle, opposed to some are 1. And the materials you " could've sold " is a moot point, cause when interseccting seeds, you are upgrading your value on each cycle, for example growing blood peppers or glazenuts. You could sell the old world fig and prickly pineapple for 10k each, or intersect them to blood pepper and glazenuts for anywhere from 125-300k. So we've dismissed the time argument cause it is minimal, now we've dismissed the " materials you could have sold " because all they did was up their value exponentially. And while time can in a way be considered overhead, it doesn't affect the bottom line because you didn't spend any gil. They grown on their own, minus the watering.

[worldofneil]

After you spend 5M growing 10 onions, you'll realize why they cost 220k on the MB.

They cost so much on the market board because they're a pain in the neck to make (If you don't buy the seeds that is) and if you did you just cut into your profits to save time. You have to crossbreed two seeds to get one type seed (5 days), crossbreed two other seeds to get another type of seed (3 days), crossbreed those new seeds you got together to make onion seeds (5-6 days) and then assuming you actually got some onion seeds (not guaranteed) it's another 10 days to actually grow those into a working onion.

Multiple plots required to make it effective so you can have all 4 stages going at once or it's incredibly slow going.

[StouterTaru]

Multiple plots required to make it effective so you can have all 4 stages going at once or it's incredibly slow going.

It's only 2 stages once you get rolling; Figs + Pineapple making Glazenuts, and Onions + (insert 50 different seeds) making your cross. The problem is reaching that point. Apricots and Royal Kuku were murdered in 3.x.

Most people that start gardening thinking it's a quick and easy buck get a rude awakening. It takes time to figure out the system, plan your crops, and the bigger your grow-op the more soil you burn through.