Thread: In Regard to Housing in Patch 4.1

Originally Posted by Tlachtga

Allowing me and other multi house owners to keep our properties but barring us from buying more would be a good move IMO.

Why should you and other multiple plot owners be treated differently from others who might want to own more plots but don't yet, though? That's not fair either, and as houses are a very limited resource, it doesn't look good to have different rules for different people.

I think the problem of house flippers is MUCH bigger than people owning and actually using their multiple plots for their alts, but limiting plots looks like the easiest/quickest way to deal with house flipping. Investigating suspected house flipping takes human resources, so dealing with it that way would take much longer. And since they haven't cracked down on it yet, even after years of it being a known problem, I don't feel optimistic they will now either.

I agree the entire purchase amount should be refunded if they seize plots back, though.

Originally Posted by Combination-NC

Why should you and other multiple plot owners be treated differently from others who might want to own more plots but don't yet, though? That's not fair either, and as houses are a very limited resource, it doesn't look good to have different rules for different people.

Snooze you lose?

Originally Posted by Combination-NC

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Why should we, as multiple plot owners, be punished for SEs failure of a housing system? We didn't violate any rules to get our plots, we shouldn't have them taken away from us so that people who will likely never even use them can buy them up and then forget they exist until its time to reset the demo timer. I made a post about this in the other thread, but I'm seriously annoyed by people saying that people who own multiple houses are whats wrong with the housing in this game.

The problem with housing in this game is that 90% of plots go ignored after they are purchased. In Shirogane, ward 2, where I purchased my personal home, my house is the ONLY one with more than 40 items. I know. I counted. THAT is the problem with housing. People who buy houses and don't use them are the ones who should have their plots taken away, not those of us who actually take the time and put in the effort to do something with ours.

I as a multiple plot owner love my houses and use them! I would be happy to see multiple plot owners grandfathered in so we don't lose our plots, but the system then limits accounts to one personal per server/fc house ownership. Plus alts can be made tenants! I don't want to hear how thats not fare. It is, I bought my houses when it was allowed. I also would like to see a timer on when houses become available after relinquish. So say I lose one of my houses due to not logging in, well I am SOL and down a house.

Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

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The FC one is flawed. It's still too easy to circumvent for most players. And I still think housing should be allowed for people who do not want to be in an fc without abusing the fc system. Some people really take pride in their homes.

For an interim instead of 1 per account which is what I originally was for. one personal per server I think would be ok. That way alts can still buy a house, but it also encourages participation in other servers if you REALLY want that house.

The housing system is more fine than it is broken. Everyone with a house feels its fine because they worked hard for it and earned it with saavy and time. Everyone who dislikes the housing system usually is someone who didn't put in the time or effort like others have, or got "screwed" at a housing release. Square knows exactly what they are doing with housing, and its why most people play the game. Making housing "un-elite" will ruin the game, and thus ruin why housing is popular in the first place. The only reason people want them is because they are rare and represent status and hard work. I have overpaid for a small, 10 million for small Goblet. I have overpaid for a medium, 90 million for medium Mist.

Originally Posted by Niraves

Why should we, as multiple plot owners, be punished for SEs failure of a housing system? We didn't violate any rules to get our plots, we shouldn't have them taken away from us so that people who will likely never even use them can buy them up and then forget they exist until its time to reset the demo timer. I made a post about this in the other thread, but I'm seriously annoyed by people saying that people who own multiple houses are whats wrong with the housing in this game.

It's not about punishment. If the rules about housing changes, it needs to change for everyone. Back when they decided that not subscribing for 45 days would lose you your house, people were upset, and I can understand that. It was a change from the original allowances for house owing. But it wasn't a punishment, it was an attempt to deal with the lack of housing when they didn't want to add more wards because of server strain or whatever. This wouldn't be a punishment either. And how can you know the people who would buy up the houses wouldn't use them? How can you know it won't be one of the people that have waited for years to get one?

I'm not saying people owning multiple houses is what's wrong with housing. There are many, many things wrong with housing as it works now. But one person owning four houses means three other goes without and miss out on a part of the game, and that's not ideal. Still not as a big a problem as house flippers, but if they can't deal with the house flippers without legit multiple house owners being affected, well. I think dealing with the flippers should take priority even they can't do it without affecting multiple owners.

Originally Posted by Combination-NC

Back when they decided that not subscribing for 45 days would lose you your house,

This change was never made the change was not using your house for 45 days.. big differnce taking away a house someone hasn't used in 45 days then taking away a house being used...

"Private housing that has not been accessed by the owner within forty-five days."
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