Patch 4.2

[blindfoldedkaos]

Just because people know how to make money doesn't mean they use RMT. Me and my wife make an average of a couple of mil a day and with the Shirogane Hunger games, we made around a hundred. Loads of Gil doesn't equal RMT.

This ^ I play the market and sitting on a nice 30mil just from playing the market, oh and minions.

[Abelfei]

Just because people know how to make money doesn't mean they use RMT. Me and my wife make an average of a couple of mil a day and with the Shirogane Hunger games, we made around a hundred. Loads of Gil doesn't equal RMT.

Same here. 100% agree.

[Abelfei]

Just because people know how to make money doesn't mean they use RMT. Me and my wife make an average of a couple of mil a day and with the Shirogane Hunger games, we made around a hundred. Loads of Gil doesn't equal RMT.

If doing things right with your time, you should get anywhere from 500k -3 million on a good day. Since Shirogane day, 3-10 million a day. I'm sure there are tons of people making even more.

[Titor]

Yes to instanced housing, no to everything else.
I bought my Large back when housing was sort of new, I paid like 90m for it (From the server, when prices were much higher for a plot). All legit earned through crafting/marketboard over about 6 months. Don't take that away from me, don't make me pay more per month. I use it more for me/my friends than a lot of FCs I know of. Some have 90+ members but they're mostly alts or people that quit the game back in early 3.x.

[NoctisXV]

Can people please stop to always give bad ideas related to pay always more and more for everything in this game (cash shop or paying rents for housing for example).
Apartments are instancied without any rents or even demolition timers and it's good like this so they should do the same for houses (small size to buy and then you would be able to upgrade the size to M or L by buying expension permit like the housing permit to buid the house which is already in the game). Housing is a feature of the game that everyone should be able to enjoy and installing monthly rents is definitively a bad move imo.

[Abelfei]

Yes to instanced housing, no to everything else.
I bought my Large back when housing was sort of new, I paid like 90m for it (From the server, when prices were much higher for a plot). All legit earned through crafting/marketboard over about 6 months. Don't take that away from me, don't make me pay more per month.

Yea this is a great point. If you make changes to make things easier for others, you're going to be screwing over a lot of hard work players put in for years. Probably cause more damage hurting hard core subscribers as opposed to helping new ones.

Imagine all the retroactive heartache to the people who have spent all this time and money for housing only to see it extremely mitigated because people are entitled to things for little to no work.

[Abelfei]

Can people please stop to always give bad ideas related to pay always more and more for everything in this game (cash shop or paying rents for housing for example).
Apartments are instancied without any rents or even demolition timers and it's good like this so they should do the same for houses (small size to buy and then you would be able to upgrade the size to M or L by buying expension permit like the housing permit to buid the house which is already in the game). Housing is a feature of the game that everyone should be able to enjoy and installing monthly rents is definitively a bad move imo.

Everyone should enjoy it, just like the game. But just like the game, you are rewarded for your time and effort. Everyone should be able to enjoy it, if they put in the effort required relative to others that want to enjoy it as well.

[Gravton]

Why are we suggesting rent? Shouldn't the players be demanding housing options for every player. Every other mmo that has housing has enough for every player. The rent suggestions imply that they keep housing limited and only the wealthy should have a house. That is stupid. I already pay a monthly fee.....my subscription. Should they add monthly fees for raids and pvp too?

[Iromi]

Just because people know how to make money doesn't mean they use RMT. Me and my wife make an average of a couple of mil a day and with the Shirogane Hunger games, we made around a hundred. Loads of Gil doesn't equal RMT.

Yeah same here, my guy and I can make millions if we need to, it really isn't that hard at all.

And I really hope there is no monthly fee because I don't think it would really solve much, I also prefer the neighborhoods, so no instanced housing "only" either. SE made this mess, they can figure out how to fix it with keeping what we have. *shrug*

[Septonyte]

I keep hearing that we should remove housing from people who have multiple houses on the same account. I disagree with that since we don't know the details of every one who owns multiple houses and many people are assuming those with multiple houses are house flippers. I am of the opinion that, if SE were to implement a 1 house per account policy of some variation they should simply prohibit players with a house from purchasing more land until they meet the criteria of "Homelessness".

As for the rental fee. I could see the press release as this being the WoL paying his/her property tax every Eorzea year (2 weeks IRL). LOL