Quit trying to turn FFXIV into Wow, peeps

[Rinuko]

Sometimes i wish XIV had a unique system for relics. I been told it works pretty well in WOW.
I would also welcome a similar questline like in XI. Sure it was a long and anoying questline with huge moneysinks but I would welcome that, we have litterally nothing to spend on our gil on.

And if we keep talking about XI relic they were BIS for years because they were that good and was upgradable after they raised the level cap to 99

[alimdia]

Would your argument work better if I actually gave you some evidence? Because there is none. As I addressed with the last person, I’m not dismissing a single thing from WoW. Not even remotely close.

I think you should read your original post again.

[Eli85]

Another person putting words into my mouth. Would you please show where I might have said anything that constitutes an irrational hate for a game, or that I explicitly said it should be shunned and ignored? I would really love to see this. Do be sure to either quote it or paste the hyperlink.

What WoW is doing made them successful…it’s not gonna make FFXIV successful…in fact, it’s probably gonna piss off some players.

Bolded is where you made your misstep. Features or reasons for success in a game within genre is completely applicable to other games. What you say here, explicity, is WoW did X and therefore XIV should not do X (and you go further saying it will anger the playerbase).

In movies, do we say, "the Godfather is the most successful mob movie, therefore no one movies should use the mob as a plot device?" No.

In novels, do we say, "the Lord of the Rings is the most successful literary work, therefore no other novels should use dwarves, elves, and halfings?" No.

So why, in MMOs, do people like you think that any idea borrowed from or inspired by the big dog is a horrible idea that should not be considered? The simple answer is: players, like yourself, have an irrational hate for the big dog.

Stop it.

[NaoTenbe]

The only reason why Wow clones fail is because they don't bother to support the game after an initial release.
Anyone remember Conan?
Or that one game that NCsoft made with that one high profile game designer, who used his money to go into space, and while he was out there, NC said they were shutting down the game.
The first star wars online game. Now THERE was something unique.

All things considered, there's very little about WoW that's original. What they ARE good at is cherry picking from other games, and even their fan base, and putting in things that work, and calling it their ideas. And overall support for the game. At least as far as customer service goes. Patches are another story...

[AlthusRitoto]

'People like me', eh?

People like you are the reason that doesn't understand the concept of successful MMORPGs. World of Warcraft was successful for its gameplay, and A Realm Reborn took the concept of it, which made the FF14 franchise come back alive.

FF14 1.0 was taking the concept of FF11 before, and it didn't work so well. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

[Eli85]

Again, you failed to show where I even made a hint that I had any hatred or dislike towards WoW. And I've even stated as much quite a few times that I think WoW is fine. Right now, all you're doing is taking something and twisting it into something that I haven't even said. Maybe somebody else said it...I dunno, because people keep saying I hate WoW.

You do not want features borrowed from or inspired by WoW because it won't make XIV successful and it would anger players (your words, not mine).

The reality is, these are features that can make XIV better, but nope, can't have them because they come from WoW.

There is no explainable rational to this line of thinking then you despise WoW and fear even inspiration will turn XIV into what you hate.

[Vahlnir]

There is no explainable rational to this line of thinking then you despise WoW and fear even inspiration will turn XIV into what you hate.

I see this fairly often. People will bash WoW just because it exists...as if XIV is some god tier MMO. I love XIV, that's why I keep playing (and I admittedly play it more than WoW anymore), but there are things that WoW simply does better because it has been around longer. XIV could use a few things it has like the wardrobe where you have all your appearances which you can use for glamours (transmogs in WoW terms), pet battles as opposed to Lords of Verminion, and simply more open world content.

[loreleidiangelo]

I think you should read your original post again.

Even the subsequent follow-throughs littered throughout the thread aren't very good, tbh. It's basically "stop posting your subjective opinions about features you would like to see in this game because other people might not want them implemented", which is a total duh statement at best and stifling/conformist at worst.

[DeaconMoore]

So why, in MMOs, do people like you think that any idea borrowed from or inspired by the big dog is a horrible idea that should not be considered? The simple answer is: players, like yourself, have an irrational hate for the big dog.

Stop it.

That "big dog" isn't so big anymore. In six months time that big dog went from bragging about sub #'s to the world the last time, boasting a return to numbers to levels near it's peak years ago to losing those numbers and going below what they had maintained after 14 months of the previous expansions content drought. They haven't mentioned sub numbers since and never will again after that embarrassment. Anything taken from that game at this point should be done so with extreme caution. It's appeal is to it's die hards.

[Vahlnir]

That "big dog" isn't so big anymore. In six months time that big dog went from bragging about sub #'s to the world the last time, boasting a return to numbers to levels near it's peak years ago to losing those numbers and going below what they had maintained after 14 months of the previous expansions content drought. They haven't mentioned sub numbers since and never will again after that embarrassment. Anything taken from that game at this point should be done so with extreme caution. It's appeal is to it's die hards.

Might not be the biggest, but it's still pretty dang big even after that...uh, mishap. Yeah, that's the world I'll go with since I'd probably get a forum ban saying exactly what I think about the expansion that nearly killed it.