Quit trying to turn FFXIV into Wow, peeps

[Zumi]

Lots of features come from the mmo genre as a whole and not all inspired by one game. For example one of the most requested features in FFXIV was a glamor log or book to save the appearance of gear. WoW has this same feature now an appearance log but it took them 6 expansions before they added it. This feature was added in many other mmos before it. I am sure most of us who play FFXIV want a glamor log to be added.

[Walfan]

I truly don't understand why WoW has always gotten hate for no real reason, even from people who never played it. I guess it's cool to hate things that are popular.

WoW DOES a lot of things better (even if FFXIV does a lot of things better than WoW), and don't kid yourselves, both are the same kind of themepark, FFXIV is hardly unique and "untainted" next to it. There's literally no reason not to take inspiration from the things it does better.

Like actual epicness in dungeons/raids, sure FFXIV looks beautiful, but where are the loud boss quotes ? Where's the immersive architecture beyond circular arenas on a beautiful backdrop ? Don't get me wrong, FFXIV still offers great presentation with its boss music and everything, but it pales compared to how I feel when I raid in WoW.

Also actually open areas with things to do ? Not just there for the MSQ ? WoW adds them all the time and stuff like the Isle of Thunder or the newly added Argus are miles ahead of any non-instanced content SE added in HW. I'm tired of having nothing to do beyond going into instances in this game. Just things to do at all that isn't crafting. WoW added solo challenges specific to the spec with Legion, I loved that. I also like that they often give something cool to some classes to do, like some rare pet taming challenges for Hunters or the green fire Warlock quest. FFXIV has the WHM unicorn quest and that's it. Even not bound to class, just look up the guides for the Lucid Nightmare mount or Kosumoth the Hungering. Pet battles are also infinitely more fun to get into than whatever LoV was supposed to be.

Maybe make the world feel more alive too and less mechanical ? More items to use for fun like gliders or transformative potions, less invisible walls, less clunky movement, etc.

And please, PLEASE, fix the server infrastructure, the "muh servers" excuse is getting extremely old. No true open world, no real inventory increase (something WoW has no issues at all doing every single expansion), no glamour book, no improvement to character creation beyond the billion hairstyles. I'd even take a long while of no content if it means the game gets better down the line.

I could go on and on. Sure, WoW does plenty I hate, like class streamlining, removal of content for exclusivity, titanforging, random legendaries, etc. but to say FFXIV has nothing to gain from it is either being a blind fanboy or wanting FFXIV to wallow in mediocrity.

[Farkle]

Glamour wardrobe. Cheers!

[KaivaC]

Regardless of how my arguments had been coming off, or how some may have started to feel about some of the things I may or may not have been saying, I don't see why somebody has to hack into my accounts and threaten me through my own email. I don't know who did this, but your point is made. Please stop hacking into my stuff.

[Remedi]

Might not be the biggest, but it's still pretty dang big even after that...uh, mishap. Yeah, that's the world I'll go with since I'd probably get a forum ban saying exactly what I think about the expansion that nearly killed it.

According to theior own words this latest one isn't faring that much better either, point is blizzard is excellent at selling a product so they ain't going down ever. Wow will only die when blizzard says so That's the end of it

That said I think features needs to be added to a game if the can work with the base on the game and not because some other game had good results, also as much as ppl won't like to hear this I don't think you want to pay a sub to play a reskin of another game with, let's be honest, a much worse customer service, so.......come on

[SlogDog]

Oh no a mysterious hacker! Gee that's pretty convenient~

Wouldn't it be easier to admit you were incorrect about a few things instead of trying to paint the people who disagreed with you as uber hackers who have nothing better to do than brute force a OF account and change a post?

[Namida-Hikari]

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You're my hero. Thank you !

[Saccharin]

Quit trying to turn this into WoW. What WoW is doing made them successful…it’s not gonna make FFXIV successful…in fact, it’s probably gonna piss off some players.

Are you kidding. The developer openly admitted that 2.x was a WoW clone, or as close as you can get while still being a FF game.

Gear progression is stuck in the late Wrath of the Lich King/Cataclysm model. My favourite model btw.

They made multiple mode raids and will have/have? a super-hard version. Three difficulties.

Jobs are now their own little class, a bit like Blizzard have done with specs.

We had a prune in SB and WoW had one for a couple of expansions.

These are just some things I can think of quickly.

FF14 is more WoW like than WoW at times.

[Krotoan]

Suggesting that we take a look at a game that does something well as an example is not asking for that game to be duplicated.

If you had to explain to someone what a house should look like, showing them a picture of a well built house is a very easy way to avoid 10 pages of description. You're not asking for THAT house to be built, but it's a good example of how 4 walls, a floor and a roof come together to make a house.

People will use examples of things they perceive as well built and a lot of us have played WoW.

[KaivaC]

Oh no a mysterious hacker! Gee that's pretty convenient~

Wouldn't it be easier to admit you were incorrect about a few things instead of trying to paint the people who disagreed with you as uber hackers who have nothing better to do than brute force a OF account and change a post?

People can disagree with me all they want - just as I disagree with some of the things said in response. It's an agree to disagree moment for me. I'm not painting anybody as a hacker. I'm dealing with that away from the forums. That being said, I stand by my word. I don't feel I'm incorrect about what I originally said. Obviously, you are not going to change your stance on it either, so...this is just one of those threads that really will not go anywhere at this point.