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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    1. Who says I don't have more characters?

    2. Even if I don't you can still be an omnicrafter. Just because someone is missing a few specialist recipes does not mean they don't use and craft things from all the crafter jobs.
    2. nope you NEED! 3 characters, or you are NOT an omicrafter, for this game, that is the meaning of being an omicrafter, being able to make EVERYTHING, because some materials and FINAL products are spec locked.

    omni-
    combining form
    prefix: omni-

    all; of all things.
    "omniscient"
    in all ways or places.
    The point to point out, you manage space fine, because you have NINE RETAINERS and 420 extra spots, not 3. You can't say you only use 3 retainers when you got 9.

    Or maybe you do not craft a lot and trying to sound like you craft more then you do? Because if you do "everything" in the game, there is no way you craft more then me, lol.....

    I play a lot and 80% or so of my time is spent crafting and selling things. When you can't buy exactly what you need because how MB works, it takes space....

    Note, I never claimed to be an omicrafter, I said I craft a lot, you do not need to be an omicrafter to craft a lot and make lots of money in this game (even though I was technically one during 4.0 to 4.x???? for the first time, though 4.1 took that away)

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Sure glad this has turned into a "you attacked me!", "no I didn't!, you attacked me!", "You can't do x,y,z because you only have a,b,c leveled!", "you obviously don't do this, so you can't understand!" "blahblahblah". You people need to learn how to debate a topic and stick to actual facts.
    Here is a fact, I do not like being called a hoarder when I am not, it is also a fact this game has too many items

    Speaking of, we shouldn't have 7 different types of glam prisms anymore. With them being GC seals now, they should be crafted same as dyes, no reason for the bloat in having 7 different types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    2. nope you NEED! 3 characters, or you are NOT an omicrafter, for this game, that is the meaning of being an omicrafter, being able to make EVERYTHING, because some materials and FINAL products are spec locked.
    And... you do know that you can change your specialisation, right? So technically you can be a omni on 1 character.
    I mean, I don't even craft much and even I know that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronys View Post
    And... you do know that you can change your specialisation, right? So technically you can be a omni on 1 character.
    I mean, I don't even craft much and even I know that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    that was changed in 4.0, yes, that is why I said technically I am an omicrafter now. More reason I find the spec system pointless, since there is no limit now. Why do they even have it again?

    Still can't do that with desyth, need 3 chrs, or was it 4 for that? never really got into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    that was changed in 4.0, yes, that is why I said technically I am an omicrafter now. More reason I find the spec system pointless, since there is no limit now. Why do they even have it again?
    What? You could always change your Specialization. People just never did it because it required a lot of red scrips to purchase a new soul gem and you had to consume one of your old ones in the process of changing specializations so it wasn't worth the effort.
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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    What? You could always change your Specialization. People just never did it because it required a lot of red scrips to purchase a new soul gem and you had to consume one of your old ones in the process of changing specializations so it wasn't worth the effort.
    People didn't do it because of the time gate, you needed 480 and you where only allowed to 450 a week. You could not omicraft without 3 characters before SB, though it MIGHT of been possible do it with 2 having a rotation but I did not know anyone that did that. Most did 2 and skip Cul and armor or did 3 chrs to have everything. I do know someone that would craft a ton of things on one craft, then change, but even then he was hurt with the time gate and couldn't keep up a rotation and keep up with all the specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Here is a fact, I do not like being called a hoarder when I am not, it is also a fact this game has too many items

    Speaking of, we shouldn't have 7 different types of glam prisms anymore. With them being GC seals now, they should be crafted same as dyes, no reason for the bloat in having 7 different types.
    To be fair, I actually agree with a lot of the issues you have brought up in this thread and in others, but the threads always seem to find a way to turn into the back-and-forth that has filled the last several pages here. Using speculation, assumptions and absolutes does absolutely nothing to further a conversation and only provides an easy target for others to tear down vs. focusing on the actual issue at hand. It's a good way to get people to brush off your comments as "mad frothing ramblings".

    Anyway, I do want to ask the group opposed to additional inventory space/retainers - why? Why should we not push for additional space? I am curious as to why some people are so adamantly against adding more. Inventory bloat is a real thing in this game.

    In *my* perfect world, SE would add a currency tab that includes all types of currencies (EX totems, 8-man raid items, etc), a material bank, tackle box, glamour log (I know a log of sorts is in the making), maybe even make a dye tab. I'm doubtful most of these items will ever come to be, and in that case, we will all manage as we currently are. However, it doesn't hurt to ask and push for certain features you would like to see implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Snip.
    Oh I actually agree with the op insofar as I'd not be opposed to more free inventory or a glamour log, it's just like watching someone try to debate while freebasing meth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
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    I don't think anyone has a problem with that stuff.. Like glamour logs, tackle box, Totems in currency tab, more things put in the armoire, a free 3rd retainer, etc..

    It's the OP that has everyone so worked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Anyway, I do want to ask the group opposed to additional inventory space/retainers - why? Why should we not push for additional space? I am curious as to why some people are so adamantly against adding more. Inventory bloat is a real thing in this game.
    I'm not against additional space, but there is always a way to cut down on what all you have on you/on your retainers so that you AREN'T using 8(while I do have 8, I know that if I actually didn't hoard items - yes, I admit I do this - I know I wouldn't need them). Getting rid of crafting items that you don't absolutely need right then and there that are extremely easy to get again(so basically anything that isn't on a timed node really) will help alleviate some of the bloat.

    The biggest thing I find that causes the bloat, is the glamour items. For me alone, that takes almost 3 retainers. And that's with all my non-crafters at 60+. If they changed the armoire to accept EVERYTHING then that would help with the bloat as you wouldn't need a retainer to hold some of the items from raids that can, even with the new raid roulette, take a VERY long time to queue up for. A glamour log so we didn't need to keep any of it would be better, but the armoire change(with my limited - okay, none - knowledge of coding) would seem like a much quicker thing to implement. Though it doesn't change the glamour problem with shared gear...*looking at you level 70 tank gear I want different for all three...*
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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    To be fair, I actually agree with a lot of the issues you have brought up in this thread and in others, but the threads always seem to find a way to turn into the back-and-forth that has filled the last several pages here. Using speculation, assumptions and absolutes does absolutely nothing to furthera conversation and only provides an easy target for others to tear down vs. focusing on the actual issue at hand. It's a good way to get people to brush off your comments as "mad frothing ramblings".

    Anyway, I do want to ask the group opposed to additional inventory space/retainers - why? Why should we not push for additional space? I am curious as to why some people are so adamantly against adding more. Inventory bloat is a real thing in this game.

    In *my* perfect world, SE would add a currency tab that includes all types of currencies (EX totems, 8-man raid items, etc), a material bank, tackle box, glamour log (I know a log of sorts is in the making), maybe even make a dye tab. I'm doubtful most of these items will ever come to be, and in that case, we will all manage as we currently are. However, it doesn't hurt to ask and push for certain features you would like to see implemented.
    We really need a glam log at this point, it does not help matters with the high turnover in gear, i/e best gear is now outdated 1-6 months from now (depending on your standards) Everything else I have suggested pales in comparison that difference that would make. However hearing "server limitations for the last 2-4 years? They need to do SOMETHING with the inventory issue, like take out unnecessary items, something , anything.
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