Inventory issues still exist. Why keep adding gear to the game and not room? Glam log

[Snow_Princess]

So who's more important? The thousands of people who want houses or the ?

Also putting people down? The ? You think SE cares? They got bigger issues to spend their server power on. Like increasing housing and glamour logs. Housing first though because people demand that more. Funny, you talk about being "put down" when you've been putting down literally every single person who doesn't agree with you. Even omnicrafters and players of 5 years or more.

So you forgot why you are attacking me? I am asking for a glamor log, what is your problem? Also there hasn't been an omnicrafter for 5 years or more in this thread, and if your talking about that kind of player, they don't glam all the jobs in the game because they only focus on crafting.

[VitalSuit]

didn't SE say they are working on it?

They also said they were working on making Sleipnir fly and it took TWO YEARS

Basically SE says they're working on a lot of things and either those things are left on the back-burner or they're not really genuine when they say that.

[Magic-Mal]

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Never attacked you in the first place. I responded* to you regarding your need for more space after 8 retainers. You never said glamour was why you need space. You said you needed space because you are a "true crafter" and because there are "too many mats" in this game. Nobody, not a single person ever said they didn't want a glamour log. Also I said you are putting down omnicrafters and* 5-year players. Not 5-year omnicrafter players.

if your talking about that kind of player, they don't glam all the jobs in the game because they only focus on crafting

Wait.. so they don't glamour because they craft. But.. you do? What?

[Miste]

Also there hasn't been an omnicrafter for 5 years or more in this thread, and if your talking about that kind of player, they don't glam all the jobs in the game because they only focus on crafting.

*raises hand*

I already posted that I am an omnicrafter with all crafts leveled and time wise it has been from 1.0 until now and I also do glamour as well and do battle content and raiding. I basically do all the content in this game (except PVP...although I did do it for the glamours I wanted then stopped oh and the gloria airship and the 2 doggie minions)

I started with 2 retainers and eventually bought one extra one near end of ARR and I've been using three since then. I am a bit full, but I am managing still. Even if I bought one more retainer to get to 4 you still would have double the extra space over me with your 8 retainers.

Sorry, but your situation is a bit odd. I am trying to understand it, but can't figure it out.

[Talshara_Blade]

I have a simple solution that would ALSO save on serverside storage. If the armoire would hold one of each item, then the items you put in it don't have to have their own instance , they are destroyed and added to the list. Items in your armoire should be accessible by the glamour list. They would only have to track items by name in your armoire and not look for an instanced version of the item in your inventory. Now this also means that you lose the dye and materia on the items .. but as some that NEEDS more space and loves glamouring I'd accept that.

[Snow_Princess]

*raises hand*

I already posted that I am an omnicrafter with all crafts leveled and time wise it has been from 1.0 until now and I also do glamour as well and do battle content and raiding. I basically do all the content in this game (except PVP...although I did do it for the glamours I wanted then stopped oh and the gloria airship and the 2 doggie minions)

I started with 2 retainers and eventually bought one extra one near end of ARR and I've been using three since then. I am a bit full, but I am managing still. Even if I bought one more retainer to get to 4 you still would have double the extra space over me with your 8 retainers.

Sorry, but your situation is a bit odd. I am trying to understand it, but can't figure it out.

You cannot be an omicrafter on one character, you need at LEAST! 3, so having 3 retainers x 3 = 9 + having 300 slots (now 410) then a single character would have. (I say at least 3 because some chose to have battle, then 3 crafters to cover all the spec/ desyth,)

My situation is not odd, if you want to craft and make stuff it requires too much slots (though it is mostly glams filling the retainers) my on hand items is defiantly strained and I do a small select of crafts this game has to offer and even with that, when I want to do something, sometimes I do not have everything I need because of lack of inventory and it waist so much time getting something I do not use as much. I am really going insane with not having enough room because of too much items. My on hand inventory is not hording, I use everything in it.

Never attacked you in the first place. I responded* to you regarding your need for more space after 8 retainers. You never said glamour was why you need space. You said you needed space because you are a "true crafter" and because there are "too many mats" in this game. Nobody, not a single person ever said they didn't want a glamour log. Also I said you are putting down omnicrafters and* 5-year players. Not 5-year omnicrafter players.


Wait.. so they don't glamour because they craft. But.. you do? What?

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You attacked me here:

The reason you can get away with that because you do not do much in the game, where is the insult??? just stating a fact, also Read this following quote on why it is an attack and yes that quote you made does imply I am hording and trying to passive/aggressive insult me:

I have briefly skimmed the viewpoints but I would like to offer a different perspective. The community constantly brings up and shuts down hoarders when this issue comes up without even thinking about why hoarders might exist in the first place. The idea of cutting down crafting recipes is bad (mainly because it hurts the gathering experience, not the crafting one) but there are many things that this game is missing that are sorely needed for inventory management. More inventory space is a band aid fix that will never work and will never be enough. The fact is that the bigger the game grows, the more stuff will be available, and the more the inventory space will be filled (because it is there to be filled).

Ideas such as glamour log, expanded armoire, expanded currency tab, and inventory overflow within instances are all good quality of life systems that would only benefit the playerbase as a whole. Belittling hoarders does not change that fact.

(keep in mind when I speak of item removal it does not hurt gather exp since it is just the same item from the same node basically. Speaking of, if we go to my high steel exmaple, I would not mind keeping it taking iron ore if they removed iron ore from being sold by NPCs, this allows low level gathers get exp and able sell something to higher players like silver ore, Mythril Ore, etc. I always found it odd that iron ore is sold by npcs because of that. But if the item is sold by npc for 4k or less (often 100 gil or less), said items have no business being in 51+ synths, same with rubber, just remove that from higher level stuff.)

So yes you did insult me, saying you did not will not change the fact, I only state facts, like stating the only reason you do not hae room problems is because you do not glam and craft much. Because if you did craft and glam a lot you would see the game does not offer enough inventory. I do not know why you feel the need to have a high horse and call people horders that have problems with the bad inventory system of FFXIV.

This game is advertised all jobs on one character, not 3/4 because it lacks space and pointless spec locks that do nothing. It is also very unfriendly leveling alts for room relief when you are consistently blocked by MSQ.

I have a simple solution that would ALSO save on serverside storage. If the armoire would hold one of each item, then the items you put in it don't have to have their own instance , they are destroyed and added to the list. Items in your armoire should be accessible by the glamour list. They would only have to track items by name in your armoire and not look for an instanced version of the item in your inventory. Now this also means that you lose the dye and materia on the items .. but as some that NEEDS more space and loves glamouring I'd accept that.

what about rare dyes?

[Felis]

It is fine that they think they are creating some great immersive world but having the right ratio of stuff to make Copper. But they also need to design inside the limits of their servers. If they didn't have to keep worrying about server strain for inventory where could that time be spent. When the sky is the limit, designing it is great. When it isn't and you repeatedly use excuse's infrastructure, manpower, money you look a little (insert derogatory term of choice here).

For that they created the market boards, so we can sell what we have too much and buy what we need.
use it, you don't have to put every single item in your retainers all the time.

[Miste]

You cannot be an omicrafter on one character

1. Who says I don't have more characters?

2. Even if I don't you can still be an omnicrafter. Just because someone is missing a few specialist recipes does not mean they don't use and craft things from all the crafter jobs.

[Skivvy]

Sure glad this has turned into a "you attacked me!", "no I didn't!, you attacked me!", "You can't do x,y,z because you only have a,b,c leveled!", "you obviously don't do this, so you can't understand!" "blahblahblah". You people need to learn how to debate a topic and stick to actual facts.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

1. Who says I don't have more characters?

2. Even if I don't you can still be an omnicrafter. Just because someone is missing a few specialist recipes does not mean they don't use and craft things from all the crafter jobs.

No you don't understand. They said you aren't an omnicrafter, so obviously you aren't one, jeez!

On a more serious note, the game never says anything about you having to play each job to its full potential, only that you can play every class and job on one character, which is true. @Princess

The game is what you make of it. If you feel forced into having more than one character, thats on you, not the game.