Selling Runs and Clears

[Frizze]

My only complain about this is to put terrible players at farm parties to lose everyone's time.

But not all the terrible players bought their clears. Some of them got lucky with a carry. A lot of them dont even realize that they ARE terrible players. I know ive been in more then a couple groups where the person making all the mistakes is also the one complaining about how poorly the group is doing.

[Welsper59]

But not all the terrible players bought their clears. Some of them got lucky with a carry. A lot of them dont even realize that they ARE terrible players. I know ive been in more then a couple groups where the person making all the mistakes is also the one complaining about how poorly the group is doing.

I agree here. The fact that a terrible player now has the guise of a clear to join PF groups and such is a misleading truth. It's like when people felt the sky was falling because of level boosts or easier/faster ways to level in general.

There is truth to it, but it doesn't actually mean or do anything of importance. Singling out terrible players in regards to selling clears is an attempt to imply that terrible players are unique to this method. That it's special and noteworthy somehow, as it would have to mean they do not exist outside of it. Otherwise, if they would exist to the same capacity outside of buying a clear, what's the point of singling it out? More sky is falling responses if that's the case.

[LalaRu]

The rmt comparison apply just for the part "until there is who pays, there will be who sells", but this is not rmt. I'll never give a gil to them, but as I see how much people wants be carried and how much I see in full 340 and still clueless at things, I'm not impressed.

[Alacran]

You have to understand, run selling is what a mercenary in a fantasy world would and could do to make a living. Those that want/ need the protection but can't defend themselves have every opportunity to level the roles that are always more in need. Choosing to level a job that is a dime a dozen is your choice to make as is the wait when finding yourself in que times bloated by DPS's.

[KittyPr]

i once asked the price of a wolf , lakshmi or susana i dont remember ( the white one ) , the price announced was 70M ..... i thought it was a joke , but it seems people are ok to pay this price ....poor humanity
seriously i expected something like 5M , but even the leviathan poney is more expensive ( 12M LOL )
sweet jesus for 70M you have a big house .....

[BillyKaplan]

i once asked the price of a wolf , lakshmi or susana i dont remember ( the white one ) , the price announced was 70M ..... i thought it was a joke , but it seems people are ok to pay this price ....poor humanity
seriously i expected something like 5M , but even the leviathan poney is more expensive ( 12M LOL )
sweet jesus for 70M you have a big house .....

You're asking 7 people to run up to 99 runs of content you are admitting you cannot clear yourself. Think about that for a moment when assuming a price.

[Sebazy]

Former run seller here, biggest reason people bought clears (at least from my group) was that they needed the clear to get into PFs or raid statics that required they clear the content first. Actual loot was pretty low on the concern list for my clients, surprisingly enough (half the time they weren't even sure if they were "allowed" to roll on it, haha).

Just to expand on this:

I've sold stuff since the days of Titan HM and as above, for a good number of people it's about getting that first clear in. Interestingly I've also had people buy a few runs specifically for the purposes of learning and troubleshooting when they've had problems with their static or pugs. They've asked to stay alive and contribute and it's rarely an issue <3

[KittyPr]

You're asking 7 people to run up to 99 runs of content you are admitting you cannot clear yourself. Think about that for a moment when assuming a price.

doesnt it drop ??? i mean the wolf , not tokens

[BillyKaplan]

doesnt it drop ??? i mean the wolf , not tokens

It's not a guaranteed drop, that's why they even put the 99 tokens = mount failsafe system in

[Doki]

Honestly it isn't worth the insane pricetag for a clear. You can pay...50M for a mount, more for weapons, or just wait 6 months to a year and clear it with a PUG.