Implement a lottery for house plots

[Crysten]

You are wrong it gives EVERYONE that wants a plot a better chance then how its currently implemented.

First come first served (ie: a lottery on who gets in the login queue first) for 720 plots vs. a lottery for 720 plots.

No, seriously, how does a lottery increase anybody's odds? If anything, it'd lower your odds because those who weren't willing to wake up/take time off would sign up to also get a shot. <_<

You didn't think this through at all.

[Vladmiere]

How do you suggest we go about making it fair for FCs?

I do not have the answer to everything. There will always be people who wii have a leg up over others. But in the context of our current broken system this is the most fair idea I can think of for what we got right now.

[NolLacnala]

Wake up early (EST) or stay up late (PST) like the rest of us

I kind of feel for our British friends, maint ends right in the middle of the day

Australia has it made because primetime, cept for the whole can't click on the house signs cause of lag

"I'm MST/CST!"


P.s. We wouldn't see threads like this if housing had been built correctly, with instanced singular plots. With hostesses. And blackjack.

[Vrankyl]

But it's not fair and that is what people are trying to point out. In regard to FCs as it stands right now ALL FCs are on equal footing, and you can bet that any FC that wants a place or to upgrade has been planning this for months. Thus they are guaranteed to have someone with time off. With your system you put smaller FCs at a severe disadvantage to larger FCs that can just throw numbers at the lotto system. While it sucks, the way we have it now quite literally puts all FCs and all individuals on as equal a footing as possible.

[Vladmiere]

First come first served (ie: a lottery on who gets in the login queue first) for 720 plots vs. a lottery for 720 plots.

No, seriously, how does a lottery increase anybody's odds? If anything, it'd lower your odds because those who weren't willing to wake up/take time off would sign up to also get a shot. <_<

You didn't think this through at all.

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

But it's not fair and that is what people are trying to point out. In regard to FCs as it stands right now ALL FCs are on equal footing, and you can bet that any FC that wants a place or to upgrade has been planning this for months. Thus they are guaranteed to have someone with time off. With your system you put smaller FCs at a severe disadvantage to larger FCs that can just throw numbers at the lotto system. While it sucks, the way we have it now quite literally puts all FCs and all individuals on as equal a footing as possible.

Fair assessment. This type of change at this late in the game is pretty much not going to happen. I would be for future plots having a form of lotto system in place. And I think most small FC's would be inclined to agree with me if they gave it a bit of thought. Most small FC's I know of who got housing got it through people reselling plots at blown up prices. It is working against smaller Free Companies but this system gives possible chance at earning housing on more fair prices then having to shell out over a billion gil for a large house on Balmung. And in all honesty most casual FC's will be disadvantaged no matter what is done with the system as is.

[Vahlnir]

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

What it does is make an already...not so ideal system even worse. You don't seem to realize this.

[Vladmiere]

What it does is make an already...not so ideal system even worse. You don't seem to realize this.

I am not sure how you can make the system worse then it already is. All it would do (at worst) is cause a shift in whom will feel slighted. But would it really make things worse? How so?

[Crysten]

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

More people bidding for the same thing = lower odds of success...

I know you're on Balmung (and a Mancat) but do try to keep up.

The only discussion that should be happening regarding housing right now should be "when are they going to realize that instancing is the only realistic way to make everyone happy?"

Not "what is the best way I can get an advantage over those nasty other people who already own houses?"

[Senliten]

What it does is make an already...not so ideal system even worse. You don't seem to realize this.

Not sure how it makes it worse. RNG to get in, RNG to not be locked out, RNG to be the faster of the click... Instead of hoping RNG favors you in this shitty kind of a way, ya just make it so the RNG has to be decided by the system.
Result is still the same, someone gets lucky and gets the housing, others are left to bitch and moan why they woke up so early to log in and still get shafted, thus then start posting how irate they are on the boards, and the cycle continues ever since like last time, with nothing changing cause SE doesn't give two hoots.

Also, for the lotto system itself, restrictions would need to be placed on the system to be effective. Can win only one plot of land, if you submit and win multiple plots, you must decide which plot and the rest are then redrawn for others, leading to other players getting a second chance. And a few others to prevent gaming the system. The only factor that should be deemed to make you eligible is if you have the cash to make a bid, rest should be just done by the system cause we will be waiting ages to honestly see a 'real' fix.

So how about people stop trying to say 'no it can't or won't work', and instead stop and think how it could be made to work.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Simply put: If you have an alt and have multiple bids, if any character gets a plot, all alts are automatically put to the bottom of the queue for priority (meaning unless there isn't enough people with higher priority bidding on one, you don't get it guaranteed), like I mentioned earlier. Perhaps to stop differing service accounts, use anything that could tie accounts to the same person (such as on the same service account, same address, etc) in the calculation for finding alts to stop separate service accounts being used to bypass it.

If they can't make a system where houses are per account, what are the odds they would flag an auction like this? Now if they could... why not simply lock houses to your account so people couldn't double up in the first place?