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    Implement a lottery for house plots

    All of this talk of the first come first serve setup that has been in place with the housing plots has got to be revamped at minimum. Instanced housing isnt happening anytime soon nor is a revamp of the system as a whole but its implementation should at least be looked at.

    There needs to be criteria placed to allow a chance for those who have never had a house plot before to have a shot. The most fair way has to be a lottery system to where you talk to a npc and place the gil amount for a plot you want with a drawing system in place after 1 week. The luck of server hardware/software being against you and a throttled login system this would make better sense then feeding bad habits of missing real life and sleep for a chance to play a part of the game denied to people because of scheduling.

    On top of that people who have never had a house should get a priority over those with houses on other characters.
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    I could not disagree more. This does not solve the issue, it just changes who gets left out. That's just going to create more angry people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    I could not disagree more. This does not solve the issue, it just changes who gets left out. That's just going to create more angry people.
    People are going to be left out as it is. This just reshuffles to give a larger amount of people a chance which it should. Talk about it solving the crisis overall is another topic because SE will not deal with the real issues before the new ward is released. The foreseeable future we all know the out lining problem will persist. This is the best solution in the context of the current system as is over the same people taking plot after plot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Forget about instanced housing and bad “solutions”, they should just make more wards, we are not in the same situation we were 3 years ago, the game has more subs, a cash shop, and we even have to pay 30$ for each fan fest stream, they have the money, we just have to DEMAND it.
    As I said this is a different issue because something like that huge of a revamp would take time and energy. We do not have much time before new plots are released and would it least make things more fair. People are going to be angry regardless but the reason will be because they lost the lottery over not having the shot it least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladmiere View Post
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    Adding wards is not a revamp, they just have build new servers and copy the structure of the existing ones dedicated to housing, and then do some tweaks to adapt it to the new hardware, it takes time, and money (they have a lot of this), but if they wanted they could have it done withing 2 months, 1 for the arrival of the components and another one for the preparations and testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladmiere View Post
    People are going to be left out as it is. This just reshuffles to give a larger amount of people a chance which it should. Talk about it solving the crisis overall is another topic because SE will not deal with the real issues before the new ward is released. The foreseeable future we all know the out lining problem will persist. This is the best solution in the context of the current system as is over the same people taking plot after plot.
    If anything, this would lessen the potential plots. What stops someone with five alts making a bid on multiple plots? You've just made it easier since now they wouldn't have to log out and battle the queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    If anything, this would lessen the potential plots. What stops someone with five alts making a bid on multiple plots? You've just made it easier since now they wouldn't have to log out and battle the queues.
    Simply put: If you have an alt and have multiple bids, if any character gets a plot, all alts are automatically put to the bottom of the queue for priority (meaning unless there isn't enough people with higher priority bidding on one, you don't get it guaranteed), like I mentioned earlier. Perhaps to stop differing service accounts, use anything that could tie accounts to the same person (such as on the same service account, same address, etc) in the calculation for finding alts to stop separate service accounts being used to bypass it.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Simply put: If you have an alt and have multiple bids, if any character gets a plot, all alts are automatically put to the bottom of the queue for priority (meaning unless there isn't enough people with higher priority bidding on one, you don't get it guaranteed), like I mentioned earlier. Perhaps to stop differing service accounts, use anything that could tie accounts to the same person (such as on the same service account, same address, etc) in the calculation for finding alts to stop separate service accounts being used to bypass it.
    If they can't make a system where houses are per account, what are the odds they would flag an auction like this? Now if they could... why not simply lock houses to your account so people couldn't double up in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    If anything, this would lessen the potential plots. What stops someone with five alts making a bid on multiple plots? You've just made it easier since now they wouldn't have to log out and battle the queues.
    Purely statistically this is extremely unlikely but possible. The benefits, I would argue, outweigh that risk based on pure numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    So if someone has a job that refused to let them have the the time off, they should do what? Or if you have to suddenly stay late at work due to an emergency and not dealing with it could cost you? Or you get stuck in traffic on the way home?

    The OP suggested a fairer way and so many people cannot grasp that not everyone can log in at the right time and thus miss out. For a game that loves to dumb its ass down for everyone, housing is a constant failure.
    Then you don't get a house.

    Am I the first person to the plot? Yes: I win! No: Its on me! imo, its plenty fair.

    A lottery system would favor people that have:
    - multiple characters
    - multiple accounts
    - huge FCs

    solo players and small FCs would be sol in a lottery based system. Its the exact same situation when my friends and I buy tickets to comic con lol. The one person going alone is against groups of people working as teams. Its a huge disadvantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    I could not disagree more. This does not solve the issue, it just changes who gets left out. That's just going to create more angry people.
    Yeah, I second this. This is a terrible, terrible idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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