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  1. #661
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    I do think this is the patch I've been least excited about since starting FF. I'll definitely try Rival Wings, but I can give or take the rest now, I am at such a disconnect with the Story of SB (mostly because I don't care about Lyse and they constantly shove her down our throats)
    If only they would shove Hien down our throats instead, eh?
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    Pondera's Avatar
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    Venusiel Arcadia
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    B...but....but...

    Grand Company Depot updates!
    Quality of Life improvements!
    DRAGOONS AND SUMMONERS GETTING BUFFED AGAIN!
    Shirogane!
    24 man raid!
    New dungeon!
    New story!
    Super Mega tough raid!

    I... don't... does not compute!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
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  3. #663
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    Rama Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    B...but....but...

    Grand Company Depot updates!
    Quality of Life improvements!
    DRAGOONS AND SUMMONERS GETTING BUFFED AGAIN!
    Shirogane!
    24 man raid!
    New dungeon!
    New story!
    Super Mega tough raid!

    I... don't... does not compute!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
    And none of that content will last more than 24 hours (harder raid is the only lasting thing, but only less than 1% will bother), whereas a patch should last months.
    Easier now?
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 10-08-2017 at 03:12 AM.

  4. #664
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
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    accusing ppl of white knightning something is not better, as is trying to pass for a victim, both sides have been firing shots at each other so there's no better one in this discussion.
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  5. #665
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    B...but....but...

    Grand Company Depot updates!
    Quality of Life improvements!
    DRAGOONS AND SUMMONERS GETTING BUFFED AGAIN!
    Shirogane!
    24 man raid!
    New dungeon!
    New story!
    Super Mega tough raid!

    I... don't... does not compute!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)
    Denial is one heck of a wall to overcome. Case in point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    And none of that content will last more than 24 hours (harder raid is the only lasting thing, but only less than 1% will bother), whereas a patch should last months.
    Easier now?
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  6. #666
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    I do think this is the patch I've been least excited about since starting FF. I'll definitely try Rival Wings, but I can give or take the rest now, I am at such a disconnect with the Story of SB (mostly because I don't care about Lyse and they constantly shove her down our throats)
    She's awful. I liked Yda. I hate Lyse. She's an even blander version of an action girl Minfilia.

    BTW: what Theodric said.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  7. #667
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Wow how mature to personal attack people because they are not happy with content..completely ignoring that even Yoshida once pointed out that criticism is way more valuable than compliments..I also visit threads that are about interesting ideas and if I like something in the game I will point that out too..yet I will also post about something that I dislike.
    Yes, but I don't think he meant "criticism" like:

    "And none of that content will last more than 24 hours (harder raid is the only lasting thing, but only less than 1% will bother), whereas a patch should last months.
    Easier now?"

    from people totally fed up with pretty everything in the game itself. In terms of that, they rely on the numbers they get (nobody needs to tell them, that nobody plays the game.. if that's the case they will notice first).

    Yoshi-P also said to exactly those people (not knowing how to be motivated to play the game and be bored after few days of an expansion): "Take a break".

    They want suggestions, yes... but telling them "Change the whole concept" and they show you the door. Especially if you word your criticism like you hate most of their work.
    It's like the difference of telling a band "Why don't you try to do something with a Didgeridoo?" and "Play something else, your style is boring after 6 albums."
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  8. #668
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    Voldemort's Avatar
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    Princess Estellise
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    It all depends on whether this content is worth an entire new game's price.
    FFXIV costs roughly $15/month. 3 month cycles per patch means $45 per update to the game. If you are a patient gamer and don't need to buy every game at launch, you can get decent "new" games for $45.

    So in essence, when people are complaining that the patch is empty, they are making a comparison of opportunity costs: do I spend $45 playing three months worth of a clearly-gutted patch? Or can I get another game (or two... steam sales/humble bundle) that will last me roughly the same time frame?
    What makes this decision even more blaring is the fact that SE has stripped the game of a dungeon for the promise of more content.

    Once my subscription is up, I think I'll do what I essentially did the entire 3.X patch series: ride the coat tails of the free log in campaigns. They always seem to occur around the release of new patches, and since I really only care for the MSQ I can log in without needing to pay a sub. And I don't have to partake in the quarterly tome grind, since the second-best/easy-to-get gear fulfills ilvl requirements.

    Anyone else who feels there is a lack of content, just remember the opportunity cost above. Is this patch really worth your $45? If not, there's nothing wrong with voting with your wallet.
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  9. #669
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Uhmmm. So people are upset because SE isn't giving us our fate grinding fix in this patch, correct? Because that's the only thing I can think about when I read people complaning about how the new content in the 4.1x patch series will only last for 2 days. Of course all these people have every job/crafter/gatherer at lvl 70, omega savage on farm, got tired of pvp because they spent too much doing it...

    Honestly, I'll take the new ultimate raid over the senseless grind for relic weapons we had to go through in arr and hw, thanks. And only one dungeon, thank god, they are clearly out of ideas for those.
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  10. #670
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    There will never be another 2.1 or 2.4. Take a break if you think there's not enough content for you, and do a few patches at once later.
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