Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by TheCount

I'm still with FFXIV because i'm entirely burned out on WoW and imo there's a better community here, but the content train really needs to get going or people will just run out of things to keep them interested sooner or later.

It's funny you say this because this is one of the major reasons why I quit WoW. I don't know about now but certainly up to the end of WoD 99% of patch content was for max level players and the best content among that was for raiders. At least in FFXIV you don't have to be super serious about pve for patches to have any relevance to you.

Originally Posted by bswpayton

Hmm whats this games population 500k to 700k, lets say even 20 thousand or 40 thousand people clear this , is that really enough to justify. I dont even think flogs have 20k parses on one job so that could possibly mean that not even that many people are raiding. Which would make that 40 k number not possible , so If thats the case if not even 40 thousand out of 500ish thousand players are gona be doing this then whats the point exactly.

Let's take this excuse to its logical extreme.

- SE's own official census placed Machinist dead last at 5% in terms of jobs leveled
- Crafting and gathering is largely considered a niche hobby
- Less than 24% of NA players have access to housing; 23% for EU; 29% for JP. This assumes every single house is owned by someone else (i.e. no alts or FC)
- Creator Savage had approximately 15% clear rates after six months
- EX Primals have below average clears
- Less than half the playerbase has even reached 70

So. How much of the aforementioned should get deleted? If no one plays Machinist, why should the devs "waste resources" improving it? If not even a fourth of the playerbase can own a house, I suppose they should stop bothering with furniture recipes. If crafting only has a niche audience, better allocate those funds elsewhere. All of those would be silly extremes no one would reasonably argue for yet Ultimate comes along and it's "wasting resources!" No. It's content you won't do and that bothers you. I think Perform is a pointless addition but also know plenty who will love it. I'm not here complaining about its inclusion simply because I don't care for it. For once, odd numbered patches has something raiders can experience in lieu of beating their heads against the same four fights we've already cleared weeks or months ago.

Kindly, get over it.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Let's take this excuse to its logical extreme.

- SE's own official census placed Mach

They could delete mch, and I'd be totally ok with that. Ha all jokes aside, I am still in prog on the raids myself never said raids where a waste. But content built for world first players is a waste, look at how much smaller the parse numbers for v3s compared to v2s. Then look at the neo exdeath numbers, meaning the it's plenty of people having issues with 3 and 4 already. Which the devs already stated. So what's the justification behind something ten times harder? There is none especially to bring this out when the new stuff that's coming out was already expected anyway. Has nothing to do with me being upset. To the average player nothing was given, but the best raiders not raiders alone get the most original new content of this patch.

I feel like referring to Unending Coil as a "waste" is sort of subjective.

I mean, if even a very small amount of people partake of said content, then it can't technically be defined as a waste, no?

I'm not trying to insinuate that there was huge demand for Ultra Mega Super Turbo Savage - Hyper Edition, but it's nice for SE to recognize every type of player, even if that type is very niche.

Originally Posted by missybee

I feel like referring to Unending Coil as a "waste" is .

In this patch where is everyone else's new content? A house is not content it's a thing an external glam. 24 man, and shiyru where already, a given. The new stuff stuff is missing for the other content that we lost for ur average player. But ultimate something for the orange numbers on flogs is the new shiney. That literally no-one else is go gona have a chance at. So where is the actual stuff for that dungeon we lost out on

Originally Posted by bswpayton

In this patch where is everyone else's new content? A house is not content it's a thing an external glam. 24 man, and shiyru where already, a given. The new stuff stuff is missing for the other content that we lost for ur average player. But ultimate something for the orange numbers on flogs is the new shiney. That literally no-one else is go gona have a chance at. So where is the actual stuff for that dungeon we lost out on

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