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    missybee's Avatar
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    Mia Montblanc
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    it's not a lot but it's more since any odd number patch after Savage Second Coil, when this entire topic is about less less less.
    Yeah, I suppose I can't really argue with that. The odd patches did always tend to be the "casual / catch up" patches...

    I guess I just get distracted very easily. I sort of balk at the idea of doggo farming being what carries us to 4.2, and I don't care about my FFlogs since I'm trash.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    it's a little disingenuous to lump Diadem + LoV in there and ignore Eureka and the new music playing thing. those aren't ready yet but work has been put into them. and don't forget while those 2 pieces are delayed 4.1 is a month earlier than 3.1.
    That's a fair point. Don't know how long Eureka is going to take to release, though.
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    Sandra Dalvia
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    Probably the biggest void that makes the patch feel somewhat lacking is the delay of Eureka. And people were expecting to see more from other features when a 2nd regular dungeon was sacrificed for it. It doesn't help that on the live letter they didn't do live demonstrations of 2 big pieces of content, Return to Ivalice (for not wanting to "show too much") and the new pvp mode (for lack of a proper environment). In both cases it was weird, if they didn't want to ruin surprises in Return to Ivalice then why go live to the entrance and stay there teasing us? And on Rival Wings, if they can't make a proper live demonstration then why not come with some pre-recorded demo to get a better idea of how it plays?

    But even then all that content is still coming, it's just that today they didn't have as much to show as we may have expected for one reason or another. So to quote Yoshi (even though he said this originally at a terrible moment), "we need to calm down".

    To make a fair comparison of the ammount of content we're getting here are the trailers for 3.1 and 4.1. There are some paralels, but it's not that simple to compare on where they're different. Eureka seems to be the biggest thing missing. I really hope the extra time they're taking on it serves to make an enjoyable experience and that it's not Diadem 4.0 (but I'm not getting my hopes high after they took down the original Diadem for a long time only to slap some fates on it).

    3.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc

    4.1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWBYwa-7IvY
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Yea they are going to have to hustle up because there are some great changes coming and things but I doubt this patch content will even last the whole month of october before ppl only log in for expert dailies and savage weeklies......there is no gear gates or anything so those great raids teams will have cleared ultimate pretty quick...24 man will be a wipe rest the first day or two and then turn into something you have to force yourself to do....

    People couldn't even clear shinryu normal so I imagine ex will join the ranks of "steps or faith" and "final steps of faith" meaning people suck terribly at simple mechanics...Sooo overall 4.1 won't last long at all lol
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    I wouldn't call it empty. That said, the devs' refusal to create content with a high degree of replayability and long term incentive structures will only hurt the game long term with regard to retaining subs. If they are fine with people unsubbing and coming back for the next expansion that is their prerogative I suppose.

    I stand by my opinion the gear system in this game needs a drastic overhaul.
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    Will there be new crafts and gatherables? I looked through the notes and just saw some stuff about Zoey. Was fun gathering and making hq stuff like over a year ago when it wasn't hello kitty land.

    @OPs question - battlefield 1 and maybe TW:2
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggyzapps View Post
    Will there be new crafts and gatherables? I looked through the notes and just saw some stuff about Zoey. Was fun gathering and making hq stuff like over a year ago when it wasn't hello kitty land.
    I'd imagine there will be, there always is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    To put it bluntly...I would be unsubscribed right now if I didn't pay for two months.
    This is a ridiculously lackluster patch, and I'm not going to sit here and pretend I enjoy playing 4 month old dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    To put it bluntly...I would be unsubscribed right now if I didn't pay for two months.
    This is a ridiculously lackluster patch, and I'm not going to sit here and pretend I enjoy playing 4 month old dungeons.
    And I'd hate to be that guy. But Yoshi wants you take a break and play other games. He wants casual and midcore with variation of skill between the two.

    If you are looking for this game to be the game you spend hours upon hours in and not much else. No patch will quench that thirst if the content is cherry picked by only what we like. There is a broad range of existing content, we either like it or we don't.
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    Adventure Journey Concept: http://goo.gl/b6SyTh

    Skillchain Concept: http://goo.gl/tts8Cz

    Power Modifier Concept: http://goo.gl/Md3UAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    And I'd hate to be that guy. But Yoshi wants you take a break and play other games. He wants casual and midcore with variation of skill between the two.

    If you are looking for this game to be the game you spend hours upon hours in and not much else. No patch will quench that thirst if the content is cherry picked by only what we like. There is a broad range of existing content, we either like it or we don't.
    Eh, it's not a fair argument when content gets pushed back that people were looking forward to. They subscribed with the intent of thinking they would be able to play said content and now they won't. They do have a reason to be bummed out by it. Now I could understand your argument if SE didn't have content get pushed back or forgotten but that's not the case. This is content that is pushing back the Relic phase which is something that could occupy a lot of people's time but now that huge time investment is removed from this patch cycle.
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