4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

**Rysir** · 10-08-2017 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Voltyblast

And none of that content will last more than 24 hours (harder raid is the only lasting thing, but only less than 1% will bother), whereas a patch should last months.
Easier now?

I can guarantee you that the QOL changes, job buffs, grand company grinding ,housing and 24 man raid will last longer than 24 hours.

Those are staying in action a long time due to mechanics and obvious reasons.

**bswpayton** · 10-08-2017 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Neophyte

Yes, but I don't think he meant "criticism" like:

"And none of that content will last more than 24 hours (harder raid is the only lasting thing, but onls."

You know what happens when u take a break I can lose ur house if u have one. You missed the upgrade items to upgrade ur gear and weapons. You lose the chance to learn fights whenever one else does. Taking breaks have consequences in this game

**Elkanah** · 10-08-2017 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by bswpayton

You missed the upgrade items to upgrade ur gear and weapons. You lose the chance to learn fights whenever one else does. Taking breaks have consequences in this game

Not when unsynced is a thing. You dont need to know mechanics for just about any fight anymore, and can burn each of them. And those items will be unlocked by the time the person comes back, along with new gear sets to replace the current. So the argument is at a stand still :/

**Vahlnir** · 10-08-2017 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by bswpayton

You know what happens when u take a break I can lose ur house if u have one. You missed the upgrade items to upgrade ur gear and weapons. You lose the chance to learn fights whenever one else does. Taking breaks have consequences in this game

You are correct on the houses. Learning parties? Sorta but not really. Learning parties DO happen months later. The rush just isn't there. If there's no parties forming just make one yourself. I've done that before and people will join if you're patient. Upgrade items? Yeah, not so much. They're always there. Sometimes they change the source, but there's seriously no missing out on those.

**Sandpark** · 10-08-2017 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Voldemort

So in essence, when people are complaining that the patch is empty, they are making a comparison of opportunity costs: do I spend $45 playing three months worth of a clearly-gutted patch? Or can I get another game (or two... steam sales/humble bundle) that will last me roughly the same time frame?
What makes this decision even more blaring is the fact that SE has stripped the game of a dungeon for the promise of more content.

If those 2 games are great then you probably made a good choice.

But, remember while those two games may give better value over the course of three months. Their expansions end immediately or a year or two after. Investing in this game has more replay value over the long haul unless you prefer playing the same thing over and over with little changes.

I play the heck out of old Bioware and Squaresoft games to this day, but that experience does not change anymore for the most part.

**bswpayton** · 10-08-2017 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Elkanah

Not when unsynced is a thing. You dont need to know mechanics for just about any fight anymore, and can burn each of them. And those items will be unlocked by the time the person comes back, along with new gear sets to replace the current. So the argument is at a stand still :/

Running stuff unsync only might as well cancel sub that's more boring then a guildhiest

**Valkyrie_Lenneth** · 10-08-2017 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by bswpayton

Running stuff unsync only might as well cancel sub that's more boring then a guildhiest

Maybe in your opinion. unsyncing things can be a lot of fun

**Aster_E** · 10-08-2017 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Maybe in your opinion. unsyncing things can be a lot of fun

Or, at the very least, speed things up on the DPS side when you're running mount farms. I say that when a friend of mine had a full lv 70 party that still couldn't skip Soar in Zurvan Ex. <_<;

**Vaer** · 10-08-2017 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by bswpayton

Running stuff unsync only might as well cancel sub that's more boring then a guildhiest

Well if you're going in at max players and just faceroll everything I can see how that can be boring. Some players try to solo/duo old content which is another use for unsync. Might be more fun for them.

**bswpayton** · 10-08-2017 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Vaer

Well if you're going in at max players and just faceroll everything I can see how that can be boring. Some players try to solo/duo old content which is another use for unsync. Might be more fun for them.

Was replying to someone saying if u miss them to just go back and unsync. Just seems like a lame option to me but to each their own soloing old primal can be fun tho

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