Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
Uhmmmm. Do not forget that fflogs underestimate thunder's damage, so blm's dps is actually much closer to sam's than many people think. I wouldn't call blm damage "lackluster".

I won't argue against the other points, but blm and sam were designed to be the selfish dps with little utility. If SE were to give BLM some sort of utility, they should heavily nerf its damage.
Before saying this, I suggest going up to a Striking Dummy, place Thunder III on it, and watch its ticks carefully on the floating text. You'll notice something interesting that you did not know before posting this. You are actually overestimating Thunder's DoT.

Also, other way around. They're way too close in personal damage right now to classes that DO provide raid damage buffs in its same slot. Namely MCH and SMN. BLM and SAM need vastly more personal DPS than they have now if they are to stay as "selfish dps with little utility".