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  1. #21
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    Lelila38's Avatar
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    Rhia Nara
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    Cactuar
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    And here you're lucky you never ran into the tank who purposely turns the boss in Ala Mhigo around so it would cleave and kill you, lol.

    On topic, I'm actually pretty happy with the tanks I normally encounter. Apart from the occasional wipe cause pulled too much they usually notice when they lose hate on one mob during aoe and get it right back.
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  2. #22
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    Karshan's Avatar
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    Lina Kirell
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    Nice strawman. If I'm doing a big pull and I miss a mob, obviously I'll run back and get it, how is that the DPS's fault? oh, but i'll tell you what IS the DPS's fault, if I'm doing a big pull or still in the process of pulling mobs and they go crazy on one enemy and rip aggro or when I'm still pulling and you get that (are, but it's hapened to me) BLM/SMN that uses their AOE burst whilst I'm still pulling causing a bunch of mobs to aggo on them, making me have to interupt he run, and run back, picking them up.
    And don't misunderstand me, while I'm a SMN loving AOEs, I hate that as well to see some go berserk the moment they see the targeting arrow of the tank going on the first mob, like some sort of bloodthirsty grizzly bear. I just react to the fact that, while the blame on the tank often isn't deserved, it sometimes is and being tank or heal doesn't give a special status regarding complaints.
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  3. #23
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    Venoshock's Avatar
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    Char Mae
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    ... I just react to the fact that, while the blame on the tank often isn't deserved, it sometimes is and being tank or heal doesn't give a special status regarding complaints.
    Where did I imply the contrary?
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  4. #24
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    Gravton's Avatar
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ichirai View Post
    This is interesting to see posts from healers and tanks saying they voluntarily let their team members die... When I started playing this game as a tank when the DPS start to overdo it I just took it as a challenge. I just gotta work harder but that's what being a tank is to me.. yes we do have our own play style so of course I can't expect everyone to play like me but I do feel tanks should hold their pride! Which of course means holding hate ... yes of course I understand there are silly people out there who don't cooperate.. I've been there but I speak up. I am not going to stop trying to play my role as The Savior!
    Thank you for reading, that is my 2cent!
    Happy Gaming ✌
    When I started playing the rule was "You pull it, you tank it." Cause brds were jumping around pulling everything.
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  5. #25
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    AngaratoSvartberg's Avatar
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    Angarato Svartberg
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    Spriggan
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    Viper Lv 100
    blame the current meta :P tank stances are so gimpy and not needed on bosses. sometimes you do lose aggro and ussually i just voke and do my aggro combo. doesnt always do the trick if they keep going balls deep and dont use their anti-aggro abilities. i dont tank as a main tho and i do use grit on trash ussually. i probably just suck. it only happens once in a blue moon tho. oh well
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  6. #26
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Well, that usually happens when dps start attacking while the tank is still pulling. If you're a smn and you use tri-disaster->bane->painflare while the tank's still pulling mobs you deserve to die.
    If some dots and one attack is enough to pull off of you during the process of a chain pull then you're clearly not doing it correctly.
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  7. #27
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    Gravton's Avatar
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    If some dots and one attack is enough to pull off of you during the process of a chain pull then you're clearly not doing it correctly.
    It's not an in depth process. Run up to mobs, aoe threat skill, run to next pack. There is literally nothing else to it. If you are pulling threat mid pull, you are messing up the processe, not the tank.
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  8. #28
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    JockHarley's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Jock Harley
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 61
    So what is the purpose of the tank if aggro does get lost to dps regardless though?:
    is this like a feels bad man coz the dps arent using their cooldowns and tanks don't want to stance dance again to recover or?:
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  9. #29
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gravton View Post
    It's not an in depth process. Run up to mobs, aoe threat skill, run to next pack. There is literally nothing else to it. If you are pulling threat mid pull, you are messing up the processe, not the tank.
    You're right it's not an in depth process. Which is why if you're losing hate to some dots and a painflare, your aoe skill isn't hitting everything or the summoner wildly outgears you for some reason. Not that a good SMN will bane a pull that's still in the process of being pulled in the first place, but I digress.
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  10. #30
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    I'm always diversion if the aggro bar starting to get ugly.
    But even with diversion if the tank stayed in attack stance then its only the matter of times before healer or me get aggro again.
    And if healer got aggro I'll help them because I don't believe any tank in attack stance can save anyone.
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