4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

[MoroMurasaki]

OP I could only like that post once but want you to know I liked it enough for more.

While I might not agree with everything you said you said it all so well and it was so funny. I literally laughed out loud. Not like "dead eyed stating at my phone typing lol" like "laying in bed with my dog and boyfriend while they are angry at me for laughing so much".

Good job.

[Rosalynd]

So... all the OP's edit really does just boil down to their opinion it seems. The patch has PLENTY of content, just none of it appeals to his raid centric ego.

Can you at least change the title or something to "4.1 - The emptiest patch yet for me"? You know, something not entirely misleading and full of bait?

[Rita1989]

So... all the OP's edit really does just boil down to their opinion it seems. The patch has PLENTY of content, just none of it appeals to his raid centric ego.

Can you at least change the title or something to "4.1 - The emptiest patch yet for me"? You know, something not entirely misleading and full of bait?

I dont think its incorrect though, this is going to be the most bare patch we are ever going to receive in the games existence so far its hard to deny that.

It really needed to have Eureka in this patch cycle without it most people will be checked out by November

[Lazaruz]

I dont think its incorrect though, this is going to be the most bare patch we are ever going to receive in the games existence so far its hard to deny that.

3.22 says hi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...9cc307c28477e3
(entirely focused around PVP changes. So if you dont do PVP good luck finding "new" stuff)

And 3.1 says hi http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c91d884c6b6a84
(too early to properly tell but on a rough estimation it's deffinetely around the same mark as 4.1 in terms of content, if not beneath)


You might wanna rephrase what you said, or did you come here just to play doomsayer?
And yes, both of my examples are to tackle both the litteral, and subjective idea of 4.1 being content bare.

[Rita1989]

I mean this with no malice, or threat whatsoever. But I'm gonna give you the curteousy of either rephrasing those words, or taking them back before I slam the book on just how wrong you are with that statement (Atleast working by preliminary assumptions, as we do not know how far they extended things like the MSQ, and we wont know untill patch notes)

Go ahead and try and the MSQ takes 1-2 days to get through max its not what keeps people invested over an entire patch period

We just had a live letter that went over everything we are getting this patch there is no surprises coming before the patch notes come out.


eDIT:

3.22 is a partial patch , 3.2 is a main patch try again

3.1 had 2 dungeons, ex primal, 1 raid, diadam, beastquests, LoV and got relic in 3.15

4.1 has 1 dungeon. 1 raid, ex primal, ultimate, beastquest and pvp in 4.15(in 3.0 we got new pvp mode before 3.1)

3.1 failed because the content failed ultimately not that it was lacking

[Lazaruz]

Go ahead and try and the MSQ takes 1-2 days to get through max its not what keeps people invested over an entire patch period

You're right. It's not like they're also adding

• A 24man raid,
• Ultimate Savage (to satisfy the absolute 1% players),
• New dungeon.
• New Custom Deliveries (for crafters).
• Ability to use your Adventurer Squadron to better level jobs you might want but are bellow 50 (god knows I have atleast 1 that I'd be glad to finally get outof the way)
• New EX mode primal
• New Beast Tribe
• And a new housing district (techniqly only opening it up for plot purchase)

Totally just the MSQ being added, yup yup

3.1 failed because the content failed ultimately not that it was lacking

Tut tut. That's not the argument being made. Either stay on target, or know when to back down

4.1 has 1 dungeon. 1 raid, ex primal, ultimate, beastquest and pvp in 4.15(in 3.0 we got new pvp mode before 3.1)

And here we go. Hard proof that you're incapable of seeing beyond what might give you that oh so precious ilevel boost.
Or you wouldnt have omitted the....

• Hidlibrand sidequests,
• Shirogane being released to the public
• and new Stormblood tiered Custom Deliveries

3.22 is a partial patch

A patch is a patch.
Your entire point is 4.1 will add the least ammount of content to the game ever outof any patch, both past and present

You did not say major patch. You did not say partial patch excluded. You did not say story/raid/etc patch only.

Hence, 3.22 says hi to your rather blatant case of hyperbole.

This is why I gave you the opening to rephrase. And it's why I had two examples, to counter both the litteral, and non litteral meaning of what you said.
I'd advise you to next time not spit in peoples face when they're trying to be nice

And I have no idea why you even mention 3.2, to then go on and adress 3.1 due to it being the one I actually mentioned.
Slip of the tongue, or ill concieved attempt to divert from my counter argument?

[Krotoan]

I'm excited for the patch. What happened after the victorious Ala Mhigo battle!?!?! I can't wait to find out! Also I've been hand picking and challenging for my Adventurer Squadron members for months and I finally got them all where I want them.. now I can DO stuff with them!?!?! OMG YES! I can see myself gathering glamours for them for a month BY ITSELF. New raid! New Dungeon! .. I will not touch the "ultimate" content since that doesn't appeal to me but yay for it being there for my Guildies who like that sort of thing. Crafting stuff! woo!

And the prize I've been waiting for: my shirogane house *crosses fingers*


I'm not finding it empty at all. You complain because it doesn't have things you value, which is valid. But there are hundreds of us who are excited for almost every bit of it. I suggest patience till the content you want does come out.

[Rita1989]

You still haven't proved there is more content in this patch.

Ultimate Savage is useless for 99% of the player base and the rest of the stuff is the base patch stuff except its less.

They said they had and increase budget for SB and promised new exciting content instead of 2 dungeons in odd number patches but here we are looking at the same stuff as normal but missing the relic this time around, if you can last 3-4 months on this content good for you lets just agree to disagree.

As a someone from 2.0 launch who have seen most people I know in game either stop playing completely or play only a couple months a year now besides the expansion launch, I think there is a real concern about the games long term longevity and if this game ever receives a WoW level drop in player base its probably finished.

[K1tt]

I have to say im a little disappointed. I was really looking forward to working on my relic over the holiday period. im not a savage/extreme raider really and I only do the pvp roulette for the bonus tomes. I am looking forward to the 24 man instance each week though and the new dungeon looks good.

But aside from the new beast tribe quests theres really not much reason to log In each day for me after my tome grind is done. I have 18 of the games jobs at 70 so im done levelling for now as well. Maybe ill just make some gill off crafting housing items.

[Lazaruz]

You still haven't proved there is more content in this patch.

And here I got hopefull you'd actually have a viable argument for once.

I'm not attempting to prove that 4.1 has "more" content, largely because I lack the very important tool to do so, namely patch notes

But on the other hand, you have also not proved that 4.1 will be, and I quote:

the most bare patch we are ever going to receive in the games existence

And last I checked, the burden of proof, starts with you. Not the other way around

Ultimate Savage is useless for 99% of the player base

And PVP content is useless for anyone like me who doesnt enjoy it.
Does that mean it's suddenly no longer classified as "content"? I guess so

if you can last 3-4 months on this content good for you lets just agree to disagree.

Theeere we go, we finally come to what's actually the problem.
It's not that the patch lacks "content", but that it lacks "content that interests you"

See how nice it feels to finally be honest? You should probably try that more often instead of hiding behind ill prooven paranoia that the game is gonna suddenly drop dead.
The relaunch worked, it's a proven fact at this point. That the people you know by and large either play extremely sporadicly, or not at all any longer, only means they are the type of person this form of MMORPG is not made for. But there are countless out there who are, or WoW would not have been such a mega hit when it came out

EDIT:
But since we are on the topic though. You know what could "endanger" the game?
Screaming blue bloody murder about how content is suddenly "nonexistant" when what's actually going on is you're getting burnt out on the game.