4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

**Bernkastelx** · 09-30-2017 02:04 AM

The real question is are the devs going to be able to fix this smn/sch/mch/drg/war mess they got themselves into? After being told to wait till 4.05-4.06 then 4.1 3 months later of loved classes being way more punishing and clunky to play makes this a big patch concerning job balance. In my eyes bard/nin are the dps that got all the sweet candy during halloween while the other dps revamps were given rocks.

**Rufalus** · 09-30-2017 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bernkastelx

The real question is are the devs going to be able to fix this smn/sch/mch/drg/war mess they got themselves into? After being told to wait till 4.05-4.06 then 4.1 3 months later of loved classes being way more punishing and clunky to play makes this a big patch concerning job balance. In my eyes bard/nin are the dps that got all the sweet candy during halloween while the other dps revamps were given rocks.

For those who didn't see the stream, some of the job changes were mentioned. War getting some kind of party-wide mitigation, drg needing one less eye to power into red mode, aetherpact and devotion being proximity based / affecting any ppl near the pet, among other fixes.

**Amariel34** · 09-30-2017 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Rufalus

For those who didn't see the stream, some of the job changes were mentioned. War getting some kind of party-wide mitigation, drg needing one less eye to power into red mode, aetherpact and devotion being proximity based / affecting any ppl near the pet, among other fixes.

Was there anything about Sustain, or chocobos being able to heal SMN pets?

**LaylaTsarra** · 09-30-2017 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Amariel34

Was there anything about Sustain, or chocobos being able to heal SMN pets?

Sustain is coming back.

**Amariel34** · 09-30-2017 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Sustain is coming back.

YES!!! That alone makes this patch so so yummy to me.

(not sure why I said yummy. It's a weird day.)

**Maero** · 09-30-2017 02:23 AM

The new areas and dungeons have been nice in SB but yeah ever have i been bored so quickly ever in the 4 or so years i have been playing

**FoxyAreku** · 09-30-2017 02:25 AM

There's a lot there, only way I could see someone being disappointed was if they liked dungeons. And who actually likes dungeons in this game? Lowest form of content there is, that.

**WickedGod** · 09-30-2017 02:26 AM

The only thing that bugs me for this patch is actualy the trailer itself...

Compare to all others (from 2.1 to 4.0) it is the shortest (4:30 compared to 2.1 or 2.5 which were the longest with 10 minutes) and moreover half of this short trailer is for the Main scenario cutscenes (even the Beast Tribe are missing).
Even as bad as I think 3.1 was, the trailer was better.

Also, if you have not followed any news of the game, interviews or previous Live Letter (of course I know most of the playerbase have) you can't understand anything because there is absolutly no text in the trailer unlike all previous ones.

**RLofOBFL** · 09-30-2017 02:27 AM

I must admit i am a tad disappointed with the patch but at the very least, at least we get a patch now instead of in 4 more months a la 3.1.

My biggest issue is the lack of a relic. Whenever I ran out of stuff to do but wanted to keep playing I did a relic. I ended up with 4 animas over 3.x.

**Moomba33** · 09-30-2017 02:50 AM

It feels a bit small when comparing to 2.1. I'm going to look at the whole patch for both because I don't remember what was held back for 2.1 off hand.

4.1. -New main story quests.
2.1 -New main story quests including a Trial (King Mog HM).

4.1 - Kojin Beast Tribe quests.
2.1 - Sylph and Amalj'aa Beast Tribe quests.

4.1 - Shinryu Ex.
2.1 - Garuda Ex, Titan Ex, Ifrit Ex.

4.1 - Shirogone. House moving and storage added.
2.1 -Housing added (Free Company only) (Mist, Goblet, and Lavender Beds)

4.1 -Rival Wings
2.1- PVP added to the game with the Wolve's Den arena. Renamed The Fold in HW and removed from the game entirely in SB. I'm willing to give this one to 4.1 since the mode didn't last.

4.1 - One dungeon, one 24 man raid.
2.1 - Three dungeons, one 24 man raid.

4.1 - Ultimate Coil, Squadron update, Bard performance, Hildebrand, canals update, qol stuff.
2.1 - Ultima's Bane, Roulettes, aesthetician, Treasure maps, Hildebrand, qol stuff.
How you feel about stuff in this category will likely most strongly colour how you feel about this patch's content. For example someone planning on challenging Ultimate Coil and making up songs on their Bard may feel those are hours of entertainment that are worth more than changing your hair every now and then.

To be fair 2.1 is the biggest patch the game ever had that I can remember so we can't expect everything to live up to it.
2.1 notes if anyone wants to check them out: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

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