Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by Elkanah

You know how much win trading and botting is making pvp happen? Do you know how many different forums are out there right now with issues of people win trading and cheating, and yet since BEFORE the feast, the pvp content has had that same consistent issue that squeenix hasn't addressed? Know how fast that's going to die out? If you give content, and aren't bothering to listening to the feedback of the community, you're just feeding the flame, and not helping to cast out the fire.

Oh god, I didn't know how bad botting was in Frontlines until a month ago. I queued with friend later at night when we got put into a 24 man as Flames. We were the only 2 people not botting on our team. There were about 3/8 people on Maelstrom who were legit playing. The whole Adders team was botting in the middle. Crazy.

Originally Posted by Rufalus

It's gonna be a huge patch for the little things like...

There is probably enough for me in this patch as I have been playing a few other games. But, I think the quoted text is the main issue people have. Too many little things that help make the bullet points like yours a little bit longer. People want content that is going to last long enough through the next patch cycle. This is where Eureka/relic could have helped tremendously as it is usually a grind. So I do understand people's frustration. The little things like Bard's perform, squads, and UI improvements should of taken a back seat or slowly worked on after actual core content like Eureka or the 2nd Deep Dungeon. And let's be real, housing is not content that everyone gets to experience. It has and is always going to be for a very select few who are lucky enough to be the first to log on when the patch is live on Oct. 10th. After that first 10 minute window, you're outta luck.

Originally Posted by Lufir

Too many little things that help make the bullet points like yours a little bit longer. People want content that is going to last long enough through the next patch cycle. This is where Eureka/relic could have helped tremendously as it is usually a grind. So I do understand people's frustration. The little things like Bard's perform, squads, and UI improvements should of taken a back seat or slowly worked on after actual core content like Eureka or the 2nd Deep Dungeon.

This would have done it, even if the content is the same at this point. Eureka has been my one thing I've been basically hoping to hear about, and all they keep doing is pushing it back. This content is going to fall out for 4.1 because they're focusing on things that could be other short extensions to add for a 24-48hr period outside the major patches related content to allow going from one patch to the next to last long enough.

As consumers, it's fair to give feedback. As fellow human beings, perhaps it's also fair to ask to be civil when doing so? We won't ever all agree. That's fine and in certain ways, awesome. We all make up the FFXIV community. Raiders, GlamourPusses, Socials, Interior Decorators, and every other tag that has been given to an MMO player.

Feedback gives the devs a more rounded feel with their game stats to decide where to take the game next. It's never a bad thing when taken objectively.

It's a good foundation patch with QoL changes and adjustments to classes. Santa didn't give us everything on our wishlist; and for some of us, anything on our list. But if it benefits others in the community, it's not a bad thing?

Originally Posted by Mug

For me, I'll always take quality over quantity, so if the new duties ooze of developer creativity and are engaging and fun and not just the same old formula, I won't complain. Return to Ivalice has so much potential, so I hope they try to step out of the box and are not afraid to experiment with it. I saw a swimming scene in the trailer, which gives me a small glimmer of hope.

Swimming is not innovative or exciting 'content'. I'd say it's probably the largest waste of development for any game I've seen in a while. It has no function. Except to 'look pretty'...but with yet another loading zone. By the second or third run I guarantee everyone will hit the 'Ugh, here's the slow Swimming part of the dungeon'

Originally Posted by Pence

Swimming is not innovative or exciting 'content'. I'd say it's probably the largest waste of development for any game I've seen in a while. It has no function. Except to 'look pretty'...but with yet another loading zone. By the second or third run I guarantee everyone will hit the 'Ugh, here's the slow Swimming part of the dungeon'

If swimming is considered compelling new exciting and innovative content that players in this community feel are better than actual content, then this games community is actually more an issue than I thought it was.

Originally Posted by Elkanah

If swimming is considered compelling new exciting and innovative content that players in this community feel are better than actual content, then this games community is actually more an issue than I thought it was.

It's more the Dev team adding it thinking it was actually adding something to the game that we wanted and would be excited about. But feels disgustingly forced, boring and like a chore.

Originally Posted by Pence

Swimming is not innovative or exciting 'content'. I'd say it's probably the largest waste of development for any game I've seen in a while. It has no function. Except to 'look pretty'...but with yet another loading zone. By the second or third run I guarantee everyone will hit the 'Ugh, here's the slow Swimming part of the dungeon'

No, I agree. Swimming without any sort of purpose other than to get from A to B is definitely not exciting content, but it gives me hope that they might have done something different with the raid. I'm most likely reading too much in to it, but I'm struggling to get excited for the patch, so I'm trying to hold on to any kind of hope that they've shaken things up a little =/