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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    There's no shortage of tanks and healers.
    They just don't deal with the crap the dungeon duties give because people perform terribly and hence fall back to friends and fc members they can rely on.

    And no amount of carrot will change their mind about it.
    I leveled all 3 healers first, and am halfway finished leveling the tank classes to 70. Once all classes are leveled, I'll go back to doing everything on my whm. I've also never had an issue pugging anything. Infact, 90% of the time I am solo queueing.

    But I've been doing my part. Maybe dps should take a chance at playing another role for a change rather than whine and expect the game to cater to their selfish needs?
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    I leveled all 3 healers first, and am halfway finished leveling the tank classes to 70. Once all classes are leveled, I'll go back to doing everything on my whm. I've also never had an issue pugging anything. Infact, 90% of the time I am solo queueing.

    But I've been doing my part. Maybe dps should take a chance at playing another role for a change rather than whine and expect the game to cater to their selfish needs?
    I doubt there will be much of a change regarding this, given SE's Census from 2015 and 2016 confirm that adding new tanks and healer only are a drop on a hot stone when it comes to role popularity.
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I doubt there will be much of a change regarding this, given SE's Census from 2015 and 2016 confirm that adding new tanks and healer only are a drop on a hot stone when it comes to role popularity.
    Well do you really expect people to stay the role that gets ridiculed and insulted most of the time? I mean look at the healers that don't dps threads and you'll see why the number of healers are down. Then you have that not enjoying big pulls threads and you have some there telling if you don't want to do big pulls, then don't bother being a tank. lol
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Well do you really expect people to stay the role that gets ridiculed and insulted most of the time? I mean look at the healers that don't dps threads and you'll see why the number of healers are down. Then you have that not enjoying big pulls threads and you have some there telling if you don't want to do big pulls, then don't bother being a tank. lol
    This is sadly one of the major issues why people avoid both tanks and healer roles. If you are a tank or healer you are in the spotlight, when you make a mistake its known and often you will be called out for making a mistake. DPS players do not have this issue (yes people can use parser, but its forbidden to use this data as proof), there are either 2-4 of them in the group, this alleviates the pressure from them to preform at 100%, because someone else will probably carry their part of the DPS . Tanks and healers also help the group by doing DPS and since Heavensward groups have been pressuring both tanks and healers, especially healers, hence all those threads shaming healers for not DPSing.

    So healers need to DPS and heal, tanks need to DPS and tank and DPS only needs to DPS. Giving them more benefits, will be the same as giving the finger to those that queue as a tank or healer.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Well do you really expect people to stay the role that gets ridiculed and insulted most of the time? I mean look at the healers that don't dps threads and you'll see why the number of healers are down. Then you have that not enjoying big pulls threads and you have some there telling if you don't want to do big pulls, then don't bother being a tank. lol
    You forgot to name those poor DPS in the "When DPS don't AoE, should they get kicked from the start?" thread. It reads like any healer DPS thread, really. By the third page, someone already called you out for being "a terrible person" if you don't use them on big pulls.

    The main difference is that there are less DPS making threads going:"I don't enjoy doing lots of damage.", or "Should Bards now be allowed to play how they choose?" in which they're trying to defend not using DoTs or any other low standard of excellence, which makes it seem like tanks and healers get ridiculed more often. If DPS were to be as avid about defending low standards as healers and tanks are, they would be ridiculed just as much, I can assure you that.

    Ingame, things look different than on the forums anyway.
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I doubt there will be much of a change regarding this, given SE's Census from 2015 and 2016 confirm that adding new tanks and healer only are a drop on a hot stone when it comes to role popularity.
    Well then get use to your long wait times if you're a dps. You chose a career that isnt in high demand, so expect to settle for low paying jobs(fates/potd) until you land a big one(dungeon).
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