Increasing xp gained by dps classes in leveling dungeons

[Paladinleeds]

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The way to do it if you ask me, is to offer more stuff that can be traded in for Cracked Clusters. Plus expand them to other roulettes. Things like XP scrolls for combat, exclusive mounts, minions, maybe things like MGP and tomestones too? Offer incentives for more players. Perhaps you could even trade in clusters for goody bags that contain random items (including glamour items). So many ways it could go if you ask me. Or possibly tokens for "Double Drop" at the end of a HW/SB levelling dungeon, giving you not 1 but 2 guaranteed pieces of useful gear.

[Teraluna]

A simple help would be to increase the xp gain in PotD from floors 61-70. Currently this is reduced after level 60.

After leveling my healers I'm on the lvl dps trail and it's a pain.

People can say that PotD doesn't teach you how to play your class properly.
But having healed pug groups in the 60-70 dungeons with Whm, Ast and Sch I'll say that these dungeons don't either.

There may be other things to help, but this seems a pretty easy adjustment to introduce - even if the requirement was to have at least one lvl 70 character before the 61-70 xp reduction was removed.

[Vahlnir]

A simple help would be to increase the xp gain in PotD from floors 61-70. Currently this is reduced after level 60.

After leveling my healers I'm on the lvl dps trail and it's a pain.

People can say that PotD doesn't teach you how to play your class properly.
But having healed pug groups in the 60-70 dungeons with Whm, Ast and Sch I'll say that these dungeons don't either.

There may be other things to help, but this seems a pretty easy adjustment to introduce - even if the requirement was to have at least one lvl 70 character before the 61-70 xp reduction was removed.

I think there's another PotD-like content on the way at some point, but I could be wrong. That would solve this "issue".

[Arrius]

The way to do it if you ask me, is to offer more stuff that can be traded in for Cracked Clusters. Plus expand them to other roulettes. Things like XP scrolls for combat, exclusive mounts, minions, maybe things like MGP and tomestones too? Offer incentives for more players. Perhaps you could even trade in clusters for goody bags that contain random items (including glamour items). So many ways it could go if you ask me. Or possibly tokens for "Double Drop" at the end of a HW/SB levelling dungeon, giving you not 1 but 2 guaranteed pieces of useful gear.

I'm vehemently disagree with adding more rewards to AIN than it already has. It'll bring only the unsavory people out that play tanks/healers solely for greed, and don't bring the level of preparedness and skill that usually comes with those roles.

And those pull down the reputation of other more serious ones that actually put an effort in their job.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

All you'd do then is push people away from tanks and healers even more. because if it takes a dps 2 runs of doma castle to get from 65-67. but takes a tank 4 runs.. to get the same 2 levels how is that remotely fair...
The result is even less people are going to play tanks / healers because it's twice as much work for the same amount of experience.

This is demonstrably false. I reiterate, people do not base your main decisions on EXP distribution. Someone inclined to play tanks isn't going to abruptly change to a DPS because of an EXP bonus. Furthermore, there are only three tanks and healers, respectively compared to nine DPS. Less playing those roles is inevitable. As for fairness, the whole argument is tanks get insta-queues whereas DPS wait around for upwards of 30+ minutes. Said tank will likely complete four runs of Doma Castle before a DPS has even got their second queue to pop. So that would be the trade off.

For everyone who complains about PotD levelers who learn nothing. This is precisely why everyone flocked towards it. Dungeon queues can take forever while PotD was nearly instant no matter the role, thus it became far and wide the most popular leveling source.

[ilea]

The way to do it if you ask me, is to offer more stuff that can be traded in for Cracked Clusters. Plus expand them to other roulettes.

I think this is a great idea. As the value of Cracked Clusters decreases, open them up to being redeemed for more options. Plus, put them in other roulettes for maxed healers/tanks! I still maintain the best way to solve the problem of the DPS queue is to incentivise the Adventurer in Need bonus further.

[kikix12]

Said tank will likely complete four runs of Doma Castle before a DPS has even got their second queue to pop. So that would be the trade off.

Um...And?! Many people consider dungeons the most boring part of the game. They will be HAPPY to do less dungeons, if they'll get the bonus experience to cover for their loss on that. And they will do different content in the meantime. Like, level their crafting/gathering classes, get even MORE experience on their DPS through fates/hunts/challenges or progress on some quests.

In reality, there are many people that don't care all that much about what role they play. Sure, if a person wants to play a tank, they will play a tank. But incentivizing is for those that are NOT set in stone. Just like candidates for a president are putting all that effort not to steal the "followers" from other candidates, but to pull to themselves those undecided or merely leaning towards another.

[Mavrias]

I'm vehemently disagree with adding more rewards to AIN than it already has. It'll bring only the unsavory people out that play tanks/healers solely for greed, and don't bring the level of preparedness and skill that usually comes with those roles.

And those pull down the reputation of other more serious ones that actually put an effort in their job.

The "higher level of preparedness and skill" isn't at all necessary for dungeons. Furthermore if more people are enticed to play tank or healer through a carrot and find they actually like the role, then that's even better.

[Zojha]

But incentivizing is for those that are NOT set in stone.

Incentivizing is for everyone, it just varies in effectiveness depending on how much you dislike whatever is being incentivized. The idea behind it is to reward you something you do want in order to get you to do something you don't want and in order for that to work the thing you do want needs to have a stronger allure than the thing you don't want appalls.
Free Mog station item of choice per run? Even someone who really hates tanking/healing might take the bait. A free Krakka Root? You have to be very indifferent to make that influence your decision.

Either way, it's a temporary measure. Every reward incentive loses all value the moment you get it, be it a mount, minion, all the materia you need, all the currency you need or whatever. You induce a brief rush, then the effect evaporates and you're right back at the status quo. You might as well try to fix a leak by putting a bucket underneath it - at one point, you'll realize the bucket is full and the dripping water is ruining your carpet anyway. And honestly, when someone then suggests to solve it by getting another bucket... I am often lacking for words and feel the urge to facepalm.

[KDSilver]

You want faster XP then play healer or tank, you have the same opportunity to have fast ques.

But the whole point of this thread is because he want xp on a DPS duuuuuuh.
Seriously, did you really think about what you write or..?

"I'd like to hit lvl 70 faster with my drg !"
"Level up a healer or a tank then"

Otherwise, it's nice to say "yeah, have a FC and friends".
But your friends don't always play the same time as you do, these friends may not have the same lvl of the class you want xp for.
I won't do Stone Vigil with my healer friend if i have the level to do Shisui, there's absolutely no gain from this...

Tank and healers have fast queue and Cluster.
Dps could get a little +10% xp.

It's absolutely fair.