Except when your group is hitting enrage timers, or not burning down important targets fast enough...or if someone is just plainly slacking.
Have also seen the infrequent time when someone else was curious of their own parse in groups.
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SE's instance on POINTING FINGERS and LOOKING FOR WHO'S TO BLAME on wipes always was and always will be that this is toxicity. Most of the times people are not SLACKING, they simply are less skilled. And the game is meant to be inclusive, not exclusive. Kicking people from parties due to low performance never was and will never be endorsed by the devs. You can kiss that hope goodbye.
That can be solved with a personal parser
There's nothing toxic about statics discussing and giving out constructive criticisms to its members when they fail to clear a floor due to low DPS/failing to meet enrage. And it very well CAN be attributed to people slacking off, just as much as it can be attributed to personal skill. If someone is a hinderance to a party (this is including static groups), if the group makes the decision to remove them in favor for someone else who CAN successfully clear the content, that is not toxicity, nor it is harassment.SE's instance on POINTING FINGERS and LOOKING FOR WHO'S TO BLAME on wipes always was and always will be that this is toxicity. Most of the times people are not SLACKING, they simply are less skilled. And the game is meant to be inclusive, not exclusive. Kicking people from parties due to low performance never was and will never be endorsed by the devs. You can kiss that hope goodbye.
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If you honestly cannot tell when someone's slacking off, unless you resort to raw numbers, I question your level of attention to the game.
It's not hard to notice, lets say, the SMN that's only throwing out Ruin spells, or the DRG that's only using one combo rotation.
(And yes I'm using those 2 as a example, not to point fingers, but because I've personally seen people like that through all my time in the DF)
And a personal parser would most deffinetely work if someone is just curious about their own DPS output, although I guess it wouldnt work if what you're actually interested in, is how your DPS compares to everyone else. A.k.a rubbing your e-peen
Then SE (if you're quoting them) and you don't know what toxicity is. Blame is either shared or on an individual level, but there's always a reason. I'd rather know who is weak link, so we can find out if they're willing to fix whatever problem they have, than resent the group in general because I don't know who is under performing - that's closer to toxicity than "Don't call me out, bro". Stop thinking of every instance as a witch hunt.
You're arguing semantics.Most of the times people are not SLACKING, they simply are less skilled.
The game IS inclusive. Your problem isn't with the game though - your problem is a social one. And if you want to go down that road, the amount of shit that gets flung around in a group the instant someone sees Bonus is far more toxic.And the game is meant to be inclusive, not exclusive.
Well... two things. First, has ever directly encouraged that saying "Git gud or git out". Second, I'm pretty sure there's been players reporting that GMs told them they can't punish someone that has a "different playstyle" when kicked due to low performance. They don't have to endorse it for players to be within their rights to kick you out if you're underperforming.Kicking people from parties due to low performance never was and will never be endorsed by the devs. You can kiss that hope goodbye.
The idea that you should pay attention to your own rotation, CDs, AoEs, Positioning AND simultaneously pay attention to 7 other to make sure their doing their job, AND know said other jobs so you know if they're not doing something right is silly...
Except it is, if you turn down the animations of other people and hide the debuffs of other people... also there's only so many buffs that will appear. And before you say "Well change it so you can then!", I could do that, but I'm positive there's those that can't, either for QoL reasons, or their system just isn't capable of handling multiple effects at the same time.It's not hard to notice [...] or the DRG that's only using one combo rotation.
Why is it that stroking your own ego is the ONLY reason ANYONE would want to compare their DPS to others? Especially when there's multiple of one class? As much as people cry "Look at all those toxic parsers ruining the game!" they fail to reconginze their own elitist toxicity when they spew crap like ^this and "What, you can't pay attention to 20 different things? Maybe club penguin is more your speed".And a personal parser would most deffinetely work if someone is just curious about their own DPS output, although I guess it wouldnt work if what you're actually interested in, is how your DPS compares to everyone else. A.k.a rubbing your e-peen
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