Just another thread asking for in-game parsing for ps4 users

[NinjaTaru72]

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Let's see first, not sure what a "stat weight is" all and while my sch is(was) my main I stopped lvling it at 64 and took Sam up to 70....ive never once watched a YouTube video on any single fight in this game, or on anything involving guides mechanics or skills. And I never will. I prefer to learn it in battle rather than watching someone play. And no, I don't pay attention so damage in raids. I don't do savage, I do duty finder, and Currently I'm a dps. I dodge every attack I can see coming, don't stand in apes, and do mechanics once I learn them.

As for openers... I do wht I feel works best. And so far it seems to go well.

As for melding? I have like... 2 direct hit so far on my Sam gear. That's about it. That's just for om checking a random Sam. Is it the best? Dunno.



Also, no idea Who dervy is. But you say guide makers so I assume he's someone you consider "important."

I'm sorry in not some elitist mud stick, but I prefer to learn myself and have fun doing things as they come and adapting to them. So far I've passed all content I've done. So no parser needed, no guides needed, nothing needed. Just play and have fun.

I'm sorry my stance in things seems to make you u so mad, but that's how I feel.

[Taika]

Let's see first, not sure what a "stat weight is" all and while my sch is(was) my main I stopped lvling it at 64 and took Sam up to 70....ive never once watched a YouTube video on any single fight in this game, or on anything involving guides mechanics or skills.

In other words, you have no experience or knowledge whatsoever related to playing this game at the level the question of parsers concerns (content excluded from Duty Finder), and your only contribution is actively harassing players who you think might be using one.

[Tigerlilley]

Let's see first, not sure what a "stat weight is" all and while my sch is(was) my main I stopped lvling it at 64 and took Sam up to 70....ive never once watched a YouTube video on any single fight in this game, or on anything involving guides mechanics or skills. And I never will. I prefer to learn it in battle rather than watching someone play. And no, I don't pay attention so damage in raids. I don't do savage, I do duty finder, and Currently I'm a dps. I dodge every attack I can see coming, don't stand in apes, and do mechanics once I learn them.

In other words, you have no experience or knowledge whatsoever related to playing this game at the level the question of parsers concerns (content excluded from Duty Finder), and your only contribution is actively harassing players who you think might be using one.

When I made that post I was wondering if he'd come back with a "well yes, I DO keep my head in the sand and choose to have others who do learn/try to play optimally to carry me" in order to continue making his point.

Not disappointed, lol. It's one step off "you don't pay my sub".

As for openers... I do wht I feel works best. And so far it seems to go well.

You have no idea what goes well lmao. You have no idea "what works best". You literally are ignorant about this entire game, as you highlighted in your own post.

[HyoMinPark]

A very tired edit incoming

Let's see first, not sure what a "stat weight is"

Stat weights are numerical values that are achieved through repeated testing--hours and hours of beating on dummies using parsers to try and figure out which stats best benefit which job. For example, in Heavensward, the stat weight of Critical Hit rate for BRD was 0.366, followed by Skill Speed at 0.233, and Determination at 0.215. Rather than go off on a bunch of number talk, basically what this said was that BRDs wanted to stack as much Crit as possible, followed by Skill Speed, and then Determination when making BiS gearsets and melding said gear. Very important for maximizing damage output. This data would not be available if it weren't for parsers.

Same thing for optimal rotations. Even if you aren't doing Savage, I don't know why you would not want to just look at a guide for SAM openers, considering there are 2 different ones that are considered viable: 1-sen opener and 3-sen opener. Hours upon hours of beating on dummies and parsing different rotations to find the one what was the best in terms of burst and outgoing damage. Again, wouldn't be available without parsers.

But all people who use parsers are bad, and jump at the chance to use it as a tool to harass unsuspecting players in DF runs?

ive never once watched a YouTube video on any single fight in this game, or on anything involving guides mechanics or skills. And I never will. I prefer to learn it in battle rather than watching someone play. And no, I don't pay attention so damage in raids. I don't do savage, I do duty finder, and Currently I'm a dps. I dodge every attack I can see coming, don't stand in apes, and do mechanics once I learn them.

As for openers... I do wht I feel works best. And so far it seems to go well.

As for melding? I have like... 2 direct hit so far on my Sam gear. That's about it. That's just for om checking a random Sam. Is it the best? Dunno.

While none of this is extremely important since you have zero plans to go into Savage or other Extreme content (which, like I said in my first post in this thread, you shouldn't go into that type of content anyways because multiple players in your parties are guaranteed to be using a parser, whether you like it or not), it still baffles me that you have no desire to read guides to improve your own performance. You honestly have no way of knowing if your current rotation or opener is even optimal; such determinations would require dummy parses or parses from duties, but you're completely against that.

DF doesn't require min-maxing at all, but still. I don't see why people are content to just play lazily. I'm not saying you're expected to be 95th percentile (which, no one bothers with uploading logs for dungeons anyways because they're so faceroll-easy there's no point, even if people do have parsers running during them), but to have no desire to look further into self-improvement? Just baffles me.

Also, no idea Who dervy is. But you say guide makers so I assume he's someone you consider "important."

He did a lot of the theorycrafting for stat weights back in Heavensward. So yeah, for people that actively seek to min-max and improve themselves, he is a very important figure. He has no reason to spend hours upon hours figuring out things such as stat weights, but he does anyways. As far as I'm aware, he doesn't get any sort of compensation for his theorycrafting, nor do any of the players that put together job guides and advanced job guides/theorycrafting guides.

But yes. Parsers and everyone who uses them are bad people.


Tl;dr -- Not everyone who uses parsers are bad people that enjoy screaming at others in duties who are performing suboptimally. Parsers are extremely useful tools for self-improvement and theorycrafting, whether you want to see that or not. Stop blaming the tool just because a few people use it for the wrong reasons.

Also, seeing your edit: not everyone who seeks to improve themselves/min-max their main jobs are "mud stick elitists."

[akaneakki]

I'm sorry in not some elitist mud stick.

That's all you have to offer? Trying to offend people by calling them elitist? lol. Look at your own attitude and post before you judge others. I know Dervy and known him for years, hes been helping the community a lot by spending his own time to find out what's best stats, openers for DRG etc. What you contribute with is report false info about players. You might as well report your best friend, gf, etc etc since they might use a parser when you least expect it.