Just another thread asking for in-game parsing for ps4 users

[Bourne_Endeavor]

While some people may use it "for good" more games than not it's seemed to be a cause for issue. I just wish SE would make up their mind...the whole "don't ask/tell" thing is annoyign imo. Either fully disallow it and ban people, or allow it and say that's that.

I think something that would make a settlement between both parts (from my perspective) would be to make a world dedicated to people who want to use/have parsers used on them.

Wanna parse you and/or others? Transfer to this world(or even 2 or 3 worlds depending on population.

Allow it there. And only have party finder/duty finder work for that world(s) . That way parsers can stay in there little area, and non parsers can be in our area. Lol.

It's about the best solution for both groups imo

This has to be among the most absurd overreactions to parses I've seen, which is a considerable feat. Who cares if someone runs ACT provided they aren't screaming profanities about your numbers. Honestly, you make it sound like you have something to hide and only want parses bannable because that way people won't see your poor performance. Whether that be the case or not, it is the impression you leave by overreaching to this extent. Demanding segregation because someone dares to use a tool is ridiculous. You have not a single shred of evidence supporting the notion people who parse are nothing more than jerks yet you've repeated spoken in absolutes. Have you even dealt with harassment from parse users? And no, being told you're not doing enough DPS isn't harassment. If you have, how often?

Regardless, Yoshida could come out tomorrow and ban parse usage. No one will care because they can't properly detect it. Even when the battle logs were changed, an update was done within a day to work around it.

[NinjaTaru72]

@hyominpark

I prefer to learn improving on my own. I find it more fun than following some guys guide. For me that takes the fun of learning out.aybe I'm no the top of the top, but at least I'm enjoying the game, and getting past all the content I do.

[missybee]

I prefer to learn improving on my own.

Spoken like someone who has no idea what a parser actually does.

You know they just show numbers, right? They don't say, "hey here is your optimal rotation, hit '2' now!"

As for openers... I do wht I feel works best. And so far it seems to go well.

As for melding? I have like... 2 direct hit so far on my Sam gear. That's about it. That's just for om checking a random Sam. Is it the best? Dunno.

So the moral of the story is that you don't care enough about improving to look to outside sources (guides, asking veterans, parsing, etc). I mean, "it's your sub"...but if you think that makes you a good player, I have some bad news for you.

[NinjaTaru72]

By the same logic, anyone else could suggest that all players like yourself who blindly report people for "suspected parsing" or "checking numbers" to have their own little world, Duty Finder, and Party Finder so that the people who want to use parsers (privately and publicly in a positive way) can do so without worrying about players blindly reporting them. Or even players who aren't parsing at all but get reported just because they're "suspicious enough to seem like they're checking numbers."

Honestly, you talk about how parser users are so elitist and toxic. Have you read any of your own posts?

I'd be OK with that, a world(s) for People that don't wanna worry about being parsed. Either way, we'd at least be separated.

[Beatrice]

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Ehhh, this sounds like a bad idea. I think they should just allow parsers, period. And anyone who uses the parsing information to harass other players should get banned for the first offense. Permanently. Make the punishment so... well, punishing that the trolls will think twice before deciding to harass the heck outta someone for low DPS.

To be honest, I'm not sure why they haven't done just that, even with the incident I posted above. Maybe they see it as too much work due to the fact it could create an influx of bogus harassment reports even if someone politely criticizes their DPS based on the parser. SE would look really bad if they issued perma-bans to people who weren't being trollish with their advice. I get the impression that the community at large has a difficult time taking criticism even when it's kindly worded.

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

I get the impression that the community at large has a difficult time taking criticism even when it's kindly worded.

I suggest don't, atleast never do that in public. It goes both ways. If someone kindly follow the criticism out of courtesy, the bad experience stays
and most people (not gonna say mentors included too here) won't stop yammering like they're higher power. Having a builtin parser justifies that
attitude because they have a 'permanent' bad experience in parser logs. Just move on already.

[Beatrice]

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I'm sorry dude, I can't make heads or tails of your comment or what you're trying to say. o_o Are you saying never to offer constructive criticism to people? What do you mean by people won't stop yammering? Someone who kindly offers constructive criticism, at least in my point of view, makes the critique heard once and that's it, whether the person follows their advice or not. If someone continues to needle the person, then it's not really constructive or kind criticism at that point.

On that note, I make a point not to ever make comments when I'm rolling with a Duty Finder group unless the group I'm with is chatty and we talk about fun stuff. Even when I notice DPS is slow, I just grin and bear it. Aquaslash has made a good point, when you get a feel for how fast EX Roulette dungeons should be going, you can tell without a parser that something is wrong.

[CaedemSanguis]

Please SE make my dream comes true, put a parser on ps4, amen ������������

[Isala]

You know, it's kinda sad how much this thread is making me miss the days when I played WoW. At least then I didn't have to worry about hurting someone's feelings, or getting suspended, for pointing out that the mage was doing less DPS than the healer. Heck, all I had to do was push a couple of buttons, and I could report the entire raid's DPS in party chat, and pretty much EVERYONE was okay with that. Not here though. Oh no. You can tell a tank they're bad. You can tell a healer they're bad. But DPS, those are sacred cows. You must protect them from the truth at all costs.

[Voltyblast]

Parsers are avoided and banned to avoid toxicity and abuse...by using toxicity and abuse. Love the irony here for sure!

As someone who occasionally uses it (I'm a tank so I only use it when I'm testing MY dps), it really helped me a lot of times to realize my faults and if my rotations worked and even if a DPS was low, I never even attempted to punish said player in question. Why? Because I'm not a prick and being one isn't worth it. Infact if this wasn't a witch hunt on parser owners, I would be glad to help anyone with their rotations or low dps.

With that said, I still wish for a parser only because it really would help out people to improve: without it I would NEVER realize how good I was, I would NEVER think I was a good dps (I used to play blm in hw and I rocked with it!) and without it I would also never realize what would work and what wouldn't. Parsers can do a lot of good, but also a lot of evil, but it's merely a tool that has no mind of its own and only serves one purpose: to give you feedback on everyone's performance.
But nope: instead people are too worried about being offended by a tool and instead of banning the ONE GUY using said tool for being a douche and just trolling, they just rather banish EVERYONE using said tool because "I don't want toxicity in my game!". Truly a brilliant logic!

Get out of your comfort zone people and start realizing that, sometimes, being told that you're a bad dps is useful in order to improve and that it's okay to ask for help in order to improve.
That is if you actually care about improving...if you don't, live and let live.