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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    It isn't faair though it takes too much time
    It takes time, but it is obtainable and the time it takes to obtain gets lower and lower as SE keeps nerfing it as content gets older. Everything in this game takes time, some more than others true, but they cannot have everything take no time at all otherwise people won't be playing past day one of a patch. They need some things that take a bit of time to obtain and work on. Mounts are one of the few things in this game that require that.

    Mounts, minions, and glamours, are collectables and are optional vanity items that do not need to be obtained to play the game.

    Like I said I still had time to obtain primal birds even while doing an extensive college program and still maintain A+ grades all at the same time. If you don't put the effort in to try you'll never get anything.

    So you have two options, put the effort in to try to farm when you can when they release, or wait until they nerf it and farm it then. Most people do not end up needing 99 runs to get the mount after they nerf the drop rate since the mounts end up dropping like 20% of the time. That's average 1 in 5 runs.

    As I already mentioned 99 runs seems like a lot, but if you wait until the content is older you can overgear it and get multiple clears at a very quick pace.

    For example if a fight that you overgeared later in a patch cycle took average 5 mins to clear you could get 12 clears in one hour...you could get the mount with just an hour a day within less than two weeks.
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    Last edited by Miste; 09-02-2017 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    It takes time, but it is obtainable and the time it takes to obtain gets lower and lower as SE keeps nerfing it as content gets older.Everything in this game takes time, some more than others true, but they cannot have everything take no time at all otherwise people won't be playing past day one of a patch. They need some things that take a bit of time to obtain and work on. Mounts are one of the few things in this game that require that.

    Mounts, minions, and glamours, are collectables and are optional vanity items that do not need to be obtained to play the game.

    Like I said I still had time to obtain primal birds even while doing an extensive college program and still maintain A+ grades all at the same time. If you don't put the effort in to try you'll never get anything.

    So you have two options, put the effort in to try to farm when you can when they release, or wait until they nerf it and farm it then. Most people do not end up needing 99 runs to get the mount after they nerf the drop rate since the mounts end up dropping like 20% of the time. That's average 1 in 5 runs.

    As I already mentioned 99 runs seems like a lot, but if you wait until the content is older you can overgear it and get multiple clears at a very quick pace.

    For example if a fight that you overgeared later in a patch cycle took average 5 mins to clear you could get 12 clears in one hour...you could get the mount with just an hour a day within less than two weeks.
    It takes an INHUMAN amount of time. After doing weeklies and other things there is no time for anything else:
    http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fa...ew-stormblood/
    “We’re not worried about the concurrent users. We look more to the daily active users and the monthly active users.”
    So it is clear they are not worried about people that support the 99 thing, it is an oversight that should get adjustments, like the mount found in expert as well. "lower drop rate then intended"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    It takes an INHUMAN amount of time. After doing weeklies and other things there is no time for anything else:
    http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fa...ew-stormblood/

    So it is clear they are not worried about people that support the 99 thing, it is an oversight that should get adjustments, like the mount found in expert as well. "lower drop rate then intended"
    20 hours (thats assuming a realistic 15 minutes per run with 99 runs needed, so not taking into account that you could get lucky and just get the drop) are an INHUMAN amount of time? Oh boy must you have suffered during the mainquest... thats supposed to take 60-80 hours per expansion after all.

    If you dont have the time after the stuff you choose over the mount... to bad? But dont start being this ridiculous in your complains.
    20 hours max for a mount. Stretched over however long you want. 10 hours a month for 2 months. 15 minutes a day for three months to get some optional, cosmetic content that isnt required at all to play the game. I cant see anything "inhuman" about that...

    And maybe they're not super worried about the people that want to be kept busy (even though I'm pretty sure they are aswell... but it doesnt make for a good statment to say something like "Yeah, we want to make this as grindey as possible, so people stay subbed even though there isnt enough new content to keep them entertained!) - but I'd like to point out again how those mounts with their low droprates and 99 tokens are keeping those primals alive as content for much longer than it would be without them. And thats a good thing because it allows people who are only reaching this content now to still find PF/DF-groups to run it.
    If mounts would be as easy to get as you're proposing EX-primals would be a thing for one-two weeks after their release and everyone who didnt catch the train then will have a pretty hard time finding a group - we're already hearing complains like that and requests to make the old EX-primals more attraktive again, so people will re-run them.
    Why do you think did they add songs to them after they were outdated? Why did they add new recipes for glamour-items using EX-primal-drops?
    They did that so that even people who got the mount would have a reason to go in again.

    ...and you want to take a pretty good way of keeping that content alive for anyone who might be a bit late(r) to the party away because you feel 20 hours of farming is to much to ask...
    Word of advice: Even if people tell you that relics are meant for casuals... never pick up a relic-quest. Its absolutly inhuman. Torture, almost...
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    Last edited by Vidu; 09-02-2017 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    It takes an INHUMAN amount of time. After doing weeklies and other things there is no time for anything else
    Wait...so when I was doing a full time extensive college program and maintaining high, if not perfect, grades....and still finding time to farm the primal birds and do my weekly stuff including tomes AND a raid static....that's inhuman? How did I manage that then?

    I mean throwing in raiding 2-3 nights a week as well I must be a gaming goddess at this point to get all that done...?

    Like I said you could do an hour a day later when they nerf the drop rates and you'll probably win a bird after a couple weeks of just joining farms once in awhile.

    You could even just do an hour every few days and you'd still get the bird within a month probably.

    I mean you ignore the fact that you can slowly work towards it at any pace. So this seems to be a "I want it NOW" problem, not actually a "it takes an inhuman amount of time" problem. I mean I am living proof right here that it isn't an inhuman amount of time needed.
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