Drop Rates of mounts from Extreme primals & Dungeons

[Paladinleeds]

The core of the content is casual friendly. And that's a good thing. But there's also a segment of midcore and hardcore players. Bear in mind the content the midcore/hardcore are given is optional. Extreme primals are considered midcore (or at least used to be, I think they still are). So, with that being said, the content they're gated behind is already considered in the niche part of the game not for casual players. Not everything needs to be casual friendly, and Yoshi P's statements don't go against this. You can indeed play the bulk off the game casually friendly. Here's the thing, there needs to be some midcore/hardcore content, or else it'll further hurt the game. There needs to be something to strive for.

[Laerune]

Would love to have a token system for the Ala Mhigo mount, after 100 runs and still no mount.

[Vahlnir]

Would love to have a token system for the Ala Mhigo mount, after 100 runs and still no mount.

This wouldn't be too bad of an idea, though I think it's fine currently. Maybe a better drop rate though to be more in line with primal mounts.

[Remedi]

I honestly dislike adding tokens to buy everything, some things are meant to be vanity and not beign given to everyone (in a broader sense, I'm against raid tokens too but it's a long topic and not as black and white as I would think honestly).

[Wade]

This thread upsets me: instant gratification is ruining games all over the board. Having to work to achieve things is now a bad thing whereas it used to be something that made you proud.

Compare this game to FFXI: several years later and rather than take a year to get the best weapon in the game spending 6-12 hours a week in Dynamis all you need to do is clear 4 tiers for 8 weeks (or get lucky and get a drop) to get the latest and greatest weapon. Need your artefact gear? Venture through dangerous areas and if you die and have no healer you'll have to run all the way back to find a key and a coffer. Now? Oh you're level 60: here's a full set of artefact gear.

MMO's are moving the way of life: everyone expects everything when they want it and if it's too hard it need to be changed.

Some of us still like a challenge and a time sink and don't want our hands holding. Let us have something before it all gets taken away.

[Snow_Princess]

I honestly dislike adding tokens to buy everything, some things are meant to be vanity and not beign given to everyone (in a broader sense, I'm against raid tokens too but it's a long topic and not as black and white as I would think honestly).

Yeah because it is too much inventory bloat.

This thread upsets me: instant gratification is ruining games all over the board. Having to work to achieve things is now a bad thing whereas it used to be something that made you proud.

Compare this game to FFXI: several years later and rather than take a year to get the best weapon in the game spending 6-12 hours a week in Dynamis all you need to do is clear 4 tiers for 8 weeks (or get lucky and get a drop) to get the latest and greatest weapon. Need your artefact gear? Venture through dangerous areas and if you die and have no healer you'll have to run all the way back to find a key and a coffer. Now? Oh you're level 60: here's a full set of artefact gear.

MMO's are moving the way of life: everyone expects everything when they want it and if it's too hard it need to be changed.

Some of us still like a challenge and a time sink and don't want our hands holding. Let us have something before it all gets taken away.

Posts like this upset me because it shows people do not understand time factors. They stated they have this game not to cater those that log in every day. If this is the case, to do say get this weekly done that weekly done, by the time you do all the weeklies and dailies you do not have time to do stuff like rare mount drops. So there is no "do it on your own time" it is CANT be done because you dot have time for it.

time sinks is not hard it is not a challenge, it is just pointless gating and artificial barriers. If you want time sink game, look for a different game, the development stated they do not cater to it, so these mounts is an oversight.

[Wade]

Posts like this upset me because it shows people do not understand time factors. They stated they have this game not to cater those that log in every day. If this is the case, to do say get this weekly done that weekly done, by the time you do all the weeklies and dailies you do not have time to do stuff like rare mount drops. So there is no "do it on your own time" it is CANT be done because you dot have time for it.[/B]

I work 40 hours a week, study for and take flying lessons and code in my own time and I still play a lot of FFXIV. I understand time factors.

What you do no understand is you can do a 10 minute run every day and in 99 days get the drop. You chose to log in and do the weeklies instead of the mounts, that is your choice. You want it all on a plate so the people who have more time have nothing to do. You have lots of content and can pick and choose what you do. If you have time to do dailies and weeklies you have time to not do them and do the mount farming instead. Or, as I said, know if you do just one run a day for 10-15 minutes you'll have it in 3 months - kind of like how hardcore raiders in this game finally get all their gear in a few months of raiding and they spend many hours a week just doing the same 4 fights.

[Esp]

I honestly dislike adding tokens to buy everything, some things are meant to be vanity and not beign given to everyone (in a broader sense, I'm against raid tokens too but it's a long topic and not as black and white as I would think honestly).

You've gotta admit though that anyone that has aquired 99 Ex Primal tomes and still haven't gotten their mount (through either getting constantly outlotted or just not having it drop at all) has definitely put in the work. I have been there with the Zurvan bird..

Yes, I did that fight more than 99 times and never saw or was outlotted on the damn thing until it was avaliable to purchase for the 100+ tomes I had.

At that point, it's no longer considered a hand-out in my book. My firebird is testament to my insanity, lol.

[Remedi]

No offense but I came empty handed after 4 years of farming kael'thas on wow for the phoenix mount, the fact alone you can do zurvan or any other till you are insane makes things much more accessible which defeats the purpose of bragging of having something rare.
True that having a mount that requires having all the others before acquiring it might be a good enough reason for the token system, but I don't agree with it, Rare items should be Rare it's healty to the game more than ppl give credit for

[SokiYagami]

No offense but I came empty handed after 4 years of farming kael'thas on wow for the phoenix mount, the fact alone you can do zurvan or any other till you are insane makes things much more accessible which defeats the purpose of bragging of having something rare.
True that having a mount that requires having all the others before acquiring it might be a good enough reason for the token system, but I don't agree with it, Rare items should be Rare it's healty to the game more than ppl give credit for

If a carrot is too far away then a good amount of people wouldn't even bother to reach out in the first place. I think the current balance for primal mounts are fine with the tokens and double buff system. Perhaps it's also because I farm rare stuff because I like it (or just for collection and/or simply something to grind) and not just to brag, but of course that's just my opinion and there will be people thinking otherwise, in both directions.