Drop Rates of mounts from Extreme primals & Dungeons

[Miste]

If a carrot is too far away then a good amount of people wouldn't even bother to reach out in the first place.

SE moves the carrot closer and closer as time moves on though.

Personally I think if you want the mounts right at release you gotta put the effort and time into it. Fight the RNG to reach the carrot if you want it that much.

I was going to college in a very extensive program during HW and I still found time to get primal birds.

If you think the carrot is too far then you wait until SE moves the carrot closer. Eventually the mounts drop like candy and the fights are so overgeared and unsync that you can faceroll some of them and if you somehow don't win a roll in 99 runs then the token exchange is there to fix bad RNG. 99 runs seems like a lot when the fight is new, but when everyone over gears it or you can unsync the fight 99 isn't that bad.

[SokiYagami]

-pretty much what I had been saying-

Eh, while I agree to your points, I suggest you read again my entire post which you quoted. That very specific part of my post you quoted was a reply directed to Remedi who suggested that the tokens shouldn't had been put in place to begin with.

My stance is simple. Rare stuff is fine, and I agree one should work for it, so long it's not stupidly rare just for the sake of being rare. If I'm not being clear enough, I think the current primal mount system is fine.

And that's actually good, remember we are talkiing of vanity items in the end and the value of vanity items increases only when that thing is rare

While I can't speak for the entire playerbase, but I'm sure there are some players like me who just want the shiny stuff because we like it, not because it's rare and so we can become brag about it by afking on said item in the newest highly populated city. Aka, we don't give two shit about rarity, or rather, how some people think it should be rare just so they can brag about having it.

[Snow_Princess]

Eh, while I agree to your points, I suggest you read again my entire post which you quoted. That very specific part of my post you quoted was a reply directed to Remedi who suggested that the tokens shouldn't had been put in place to begin with.

My stance is simple. Rare stuff is fine, and I agree one should work for it, so long it's not stupidly rare just for the sake of being rare.

The reason tokens are overused has to do with inventory bloat, we do not have enough inventory to be holding on all these different tokens. Ofc there should be a means to guarantee it, but this goes with everything, like I shouldn't be running 20+ deltascape runs because everyone lots shaft or spring, letting the rest drop to the floor.

Game does not offer enough inventory space to be holding for something like that for that long while having a high number of different ones (because you need 99)

As for the waiting thing, that is my point, I am not bothering at all because I know it takes too much time, pointless wasted time when I have more important things to do. RNG content is not content if people are not doing at all because it takes too much time.

[Miste]

Eh, while I agree to your points, I suggest you read again my entire post which you quoted.

I did read it. I just only commented on the first part (and quoted only first sentence) since some people might think the carrot is too far when mounts are added but forgetting that SE moves it closer.

So my post wasn't really directed to you personally, just took a statement you made and elaborated on it.

Sorry if that was unclear. The "you" in it was a "general you".

[Remedi]

While I can't speak for the entire playerbase, but I'm sure there are some players like me who just want the shiny stuff because we like it, not because it's rare and so we can become brag about it by afking on said item in the newest highly populated city. Aka, we don't give two shit about rarity, or rather, how some people think it should be rare just so they can brag about having it.

I'm not necessarily talking about those who afk in some place with something rare, I'm talking about the whole experience, If everything gets handed to you eventually you won't feel it anymore. It's ok to desire something new and shiny but I don't agree to the pandering that's beign given. Are you sure you would feel compelled to any new thing if it's given so easily? I mean why rolling on the mount now at all when you can get it with 99 eventually (notice that you can actually extend this to raid loot and primal weapons).

[Remedi]

If a carrot is too far away then a good amount of people wouldn't even bother to reach out in the first place.

And that's actually good, remember we are talkiing of vanity items in the end and the value of vanity items increases only when that thing is rare

[Renee]

105 Lakshmi EX clears to win Blissful Kamuy and 109 Susano EX clears to win Reveling Kamuy. I couldn't take my mini break without winning my Reveling Kamuy. The best part of the long grind was to see how we progress in a fight from 0 knowledge of mechanics to 100. It was pretty fun seeing so many first time clears within those two long grinds. Shinryu EX is next!

I'm glad that the developers decided to add a token system to give us a guarantee for the ex primal mounts, since not everyone desires to do a long grind to win them.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

OP: "I'm not interested in farming these mounts, but if you just give them to me I'll take them"

What a joke!!! The point of the mounts is so people will do the content more than 10 times rofl, how can you not see that?!?!

[Nerfworthy]

Maybe I'm alone on this, being being an ex-wow player I was pleasantly surprised to find out the drop rate on mounts seem to be noticeably higher in this game. So I can't quite get on board with the people complaining that it needs to be higher, thinking back on how I cleared ICC every week for years and yet still never got Invincible. There was no token system either, so I just wasted a lot of time for nothing. I think tokens are kind of a "awe, you ran this place 99 times and still didn't get a mount? here you go". And it's kinda a nice change of pace.

tl;dr I think it's fine as-is.

[Keridwyn]

While 1mil MGP looks like an insurmountable amount it really isn't. It is just a bit of a grind unless you really enjoy chocobo racing.

Devote one day a week to just completing your Saucer challenge log and make doing the dailiy mini cactpot a routine and you will be surprised. For example I bought Fenrir just before the Make It Rain event returned. Took me the duration of the event to earn enough for the chair plus some discounted Bunny Chief pieces.