Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Sebazy]

...so why are you scrutinising me for something that is widely agreed upon?

Stand up, take a deep breath, maybe go for a little stroll about the block. I'm not scrutinising your ability or any such thing. I'm simply raising disagreement with a point you made that still bares relevance to dungeon gameplay today.

The whole 'My tanks take too much damage' is still very much a go to reason behind not DPSing. Whilst cleric stance is out of the picture, people still use the same thinking rather than looking at how they could optimise their play and strive to achieve more per GCD. Everyone does it irrespective of if they appreciate or even realise it. I know I'm absolutely guilty of doing just that, and as such, that's a big part of why I push so hard when I'm in dungeons even if it's technically just wasted effort.

If you really can't handle that then well.... I'm sorry for trying to engage in intelligent discussion and debate with you <3

[Penthea]

I'm sorry for trying to engage in intelligent discussion and debate with you <3

Debate about what? A playstyle I made a superbly vague statement about that can't even be done anymore because Cleric stance has been changed? There is nothing to debate. What are you even talking about?

Do you think this thread is called "Lets Debate Penthea's dps in HW and Find Relevance to it in SB"?

If you want to debate that then I suggest you make that thread yourself instead of derailing this one.

And your <3 doesn't adequately veil your snide sarcasm.

[Sebazy]

If you want to debate that then I suggest you make that thread yourself instead of derailing this one.

Hi!

This thread is titled 'Dear healers who don't DPS'. Right?

My comment was about healers not DPSing. Correct?

Cleric stance might have gone, but plenty of healers still aimlessly stand around or just overheal to the nines using the excuse of 'but that tank damage!'. (Granted, maybe I've been lucky, but it seems a *lot* better now vs what it was like towards the end of HW)

Just to add with the hopes of ending this silly argument, I really can't stress it enough, my co healer could come in here and make the same statement as you did and I'd still have called it out. This isn't about you or your personal DPS.

This is about me stating that the extra damage tanks take in a large pull isn't always the end of a healers DPS.

You can work around it with a pug tank, and if you're running with a static tank and can pre plan hallowed/LDs etc. Even better.

If my upstream wasn't so horrifying where I am, I'd do another set of video guides for this tier. A text guide in these forums would likely just end up in another mud fest.

[Penthea]

Hi!

This thread is titled 'Dear healers who don't DPS'. Right?

My comment was about healers not DPSing. Correct?

You wanted to debate my dps in HW and somehow tie it to SB...based on a really really vague statement I made and want to make something big about it. This thread is about healers who don't do dps. I do dps. So no this debate you wanted to have isn't relevant as I'm not the kind of healer this thread is complaining about.

I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.

And I have said all I'm going to say about this matter. I accused you of derailing the thread, and me responding to this makes me just as bad.