Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Miste]

Also, you're the one got out of nowhere calling me hypocrite, I was just answering to that.

I didn't call you personally a hypocrite. I said the argument itself that you chose to use is hypocritical. There is a difference.

That's just wordplay, you're moving the goalpost. That part about expectation is too widely generalized to mean anything anymore, it's too far from what I wrote it for to begin with.

No it isn't just wordplay unfortunately...again you still don't understand what I was saying or you are just being purposefully obstinate. You cannot argue against facts anyway so I am not sure why you keep trying. The argument you made that I told you is hypocritical is factually hypocritical.

You cannot tell one side of the argument to "go use PF/FC/Friends and play with them if you have expectations of healer DPS", when your side could also "go use PF/FC/Friends and play with them if you have the expectation that people should automatically accept healers that do 0 DPS"

You have basically said you have the expectation that healers should be able to go into DF and do 0 DPS and everyone else cannot vote kick them for it and they must accept their playstyle. So if you are allowed to have this expectation for DF then unfortunately others are allowed their expectations that healers should be doing some DPS.

Either everyone can have expectations or no one can have expectations. Have to decide which one you want to follow. If you are allowed to have expectations then you cannot tell others they cannot have them. Sorry it just doesn't work like that.

Anyone want some?

Aw...I just ate some chips...now no room for popcorns ;_;

Is this directed at me?

Hrm considering that poster is openly rude to Moro I am thinking this post is them shamelessly being rude to Moro again.

I don't think it is about you Penthea...at least I would hope not. You didn't do anything wrong at all...then again Moro was a bit blunt with their post before but they don't deserve this rudeness either. -_-

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You cannot tell one side of the argument to "go use PF/FC/Friends and play with them if you have expectations of healer DPS", when your side could also "go use PF/FC/Friends and play with them if you have the expectation that people should automatically accept healers that do 0 DPS" [...]

This is not to pick on you, Miste, or anyone else being addressed in regard to your responses.
You bring up a point that I have thought about, and others have said:

How come those who tell others to use PF for X, are not using PF for anit-X?

For this example:
How come the anit-healer DPS are telling ABCers to use PF, but anti-DPSers always never have to use PF for them to never DPS (or never ABC)?

I had originally written up this big point, but then I realized by TLDR just does a better job…

TLDR;
It is easier to stay on the lower end of the bell curve and claim others that are to the right of you on the curve to be “elitist” than it is to admit one’s own faults and try to change one’s behavior towards a path of improvement.

Suggesting for them to use PF for their own selfish way of playing would go against their play-style choices, and therefore they cannot accept the idea or admit that your augment is sound. They would rather force others in DF to meet their demands rather than meet the demands of the group.