What is your view on RP or ERP and why is it so taboo within the community?

[JumperX]

@rymm it is true that not many rpers behave as badly as that group, but I mentioned in a previous post, that first impression marks and forms a bad imagine of what a roleplayer is all about.

It is like hardcore players and the raiding system. I met with "elitist" players and are one of the most noble players in the community and then I met some who are narcissistics. Then again I met a few casual players posing as elitists (the ones with bad attitude) cuz who knows how they got a clear of "some difficult content" in game.

Human beings will only pay attention in the wrong and negative things cuz it is our nature and is a way for us to say don't do that it is bothering me and the other party wull continue doing it because it is my enjoyment and dont want to stop doing cuz it is fun.

May be the RP community need to check in those cazes cuz it is your community that is suffering with this type of imagine.

[Rymm]

While it can be argued that a party chat is a private channel, it can also be argued it's public when you use DF and get a random person who is not part of your group joining into the party.

It can be argued, yes. But in that specific line you quoted me I was not talking about party chat or DF groups. I was directly addressing someone who said that RP should be kept out of /say/shout/yell.

As I said, I made my stance on RPing in DF groups quite clear on the second page of this thread.

[Teppie]

I strongly support both. The issue I commonly run into though is purely one through misunderstanding. People feel as if ERP and RP never coexist, that it's either good story telling with developed characters, or mindless design tropes doing the deed. They casn both exist in the same genre. I enjoy ERP as much as regular RP, though for my part of it I enjoy slice of life RP and typically that ends in the bedroom. It doesn't have to mean anything, or cross new territory, or even progress the plot because in slice of life, there really isn't any constant plot that necessitates progression. It's just fun to write, and erotica is just something to write about.

Additionally one thing that people misunderstand about ERP is they believe it to be proxy sexting. Which is profoundly untrue, and it always gives me a disgusting taste in my mouth when people say it -has- to be with a girl IRL or a guy. Which completely negates the entire purpose, and makes it downright creepy.

If I can get on my soap box for a second, ERP has never been about sexting Tinder style, it's simply a narrative, a written story between two authors involving characters. It's no different than if a male artist drew a sexy female, or if a female drew a hot boy. The subject that is created matters, not the actual creator in this instance. That's where people seem to misunderstand and a lot of unwarranted hate comes from. People believing ERPers are just people trying to pretend they're getting with someone they can't get in reality. Those kinds of ERPers give honest to god writers, people who try their best everyday to improve their craft a bad name and a bad stigma.

[missybee]

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ERP isn't just a somewhat unconventional way of getting off?

I've been to Goldshire on Moon Guard...

Depends on the person at the keyboard. To some it's nothing more than a creative writing exorcise, to others it's simply interactive porn. I don't personally care for it either way, but I definitely have more respect for the former than the latter.

That makes sense, I suppose. I have always had a very narrow view about these sorts of things, but I am coming from a place of having my perception of RP / ERP being colored by early experiences with AOL chatrooms (gross).

[Rymm]

ERP isn't just a somewhat unconventional way of getting off?

I've been to Goldshire on Moon Guard...

Depends on the person at the keyboard. To some it's nothing more than a creative writing exercise, to others it's simply interactive porn.
I don't personally care for it either way, but I definitely have more respect for the former than the latter.

[Teppie]

Depends on the person at the keyboard. To some it's nothing more than a creative writing exercise, to others it's simply interactive porn.
I don't personally care for it either way, but I definitely have more respect for the former than the latter.

For a lot of our guests, it's definitely interactive porn, but for me it's typically more often than not a creative writing exercise. Additionally, we're often trying to get guests and members to flex beyond the simple sexy talk. We want characters, themes, story, progression! Sure ERP is a foot in the door, but it can, and often is so much more than that if you want it to be. In my years and years of ERPing, I can only remember maybe twice that I used it as a form of gratification. Typically, a lot of themes are things that I have zero interest in sexually anyways. Though hidden in the nuggets of arousal are very interesting themes.

Again, it is what you make of it. Though I always thought that ERP as a secondary narrative to a greater story made the entire narrative better for it. Like look at even media, they often use explicit content as a means of progressing the stories, or symbolizing a characters status or emotional processes. I can't count the amount of times they used physical pleasure as a form of writing in things like Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, or other stories.

[Driavna]

I don't agree with you. For certain scenarios sure, but those are not that common and more often than not you can skip them without any real consequence to the plot. Also, in my own experience since Neverwinter times, people use it as an outlet to have some cyber sex (nothing wrong with it) and is described in a totally unnatural way so you can tell that the person doesn't have any real experience so it's even more jarring and uninteresting (like 50 shadows of something).

Today in a lot of shows the sex scenes don't add anything to the plot and are there to lure people to watch it, good recent examples are GoT or Spartaco. A few erotic scenes in those shows are really necessary.

If we talk only about RP, and the reason I stopped doing it after my own experiences with Neverwinter, without a DM setting the rules and keeping everyone in check it will turn into an ego fest full of Mery Sues (or the other extreme, full of inconsequential characters) that ignore the world lore and rules left and right.

[Teppie]

I mean it's fine if you don't agree, I'm more than aware that it's not everyone's cup of tea. I just don't believe it needs to be taken as a form of sexting, rather apart of a greater narrative. Though I'm not blind to the fact that people turn it into something far more, erm... creepy.

[lokowoko]

rp is fine, erp is kinda pointless since there's other platforms you can satisfy your, er, "needs" with, ff14 isn't a sex simulator, not should be treated as such. and tbh that sort of thing should be a report-able offence in my opinion

[NoblePigeon]

I was never under the impression that RP was considered "taboo", and it's kind of stupid to think that it is.

rp is fine, erp is kinda pointless since there's other platforms you can satisfy your, er, "needs" with, ff14 isn't a sex simulator, not should be treated as such. and tbh that sort of thing should be a report-able offence in my opinion

...Why should it be a bannable offense to be doing things that's privately done (hopefully, anyway) between people? Not everyone ERPs just for the sake of getting off to it.