What is your view on RP or ERP and why is it so taboo within the community?

[Rymm]

You can RP and eRP as much you want. I have a problem when you do it publicly and makes me cringe so hard.
Keep that shit to your RP LS/FC and keep it from /say/shout/yell and/or any other public chat

If you are talking about ERP, then absolutely. Anything lewd or inappropriate, regardless of if it is RP or not, should be kept to private channels.
If you are talking about normal RP, then it has already been gone over multiple times in this thread that RPers are breaking no rules and doing nothing wrong when using public channels.

"I wish I could intentionally piss you off and harass you against your wishes"

While I can't agree with Naunet's sentiment, I do understand that having someone refer to your preferred aspect of the game as <expletive> and tell you that you shouldn't be allowed to do it in public can make it feel like you are being antagonized.

[Avatre]

If you are talking about normal RP, then it has already been gone over multiple times in this thread that RPers are breaking no rules and doing nothing wrong when using public channels.

Until you get a situation like this one:

Another bad experience with RPers. I queued for DF to do my dailies. They were all happy and greet so did I, but they were all friends and from the same server (which I didn't know till way later). They started to have a lot of text and emotes with every skills they did and even talked how they were feeling as we were going in. we didn't even get to the first boss and they killed us 5 times because the healer was very scared and was telling to their group to get out of the dungeon (roleplaying of course) and one of the DPS was "always ready" to go forward and be the brave one aka meaning going ahead of me - the tank- and pulling everything (this was my first time in the dungeon....) and the other DPS was "new" to this new job so he was "still learning his new skills" again RPing all this. I got super annoyed, and I am sorry to say that I got to type in caps and tell them how frustrating I was. My first experience in the dungeon was irritating thanks to their damn idea of making a party of three people and queue together. I told them that I would leave at least they stopped the roleplaying. I didn't sign for their amusement. After that they went quiet and stopped their little game and we finished the dungeon really fast.

In which case...yes, they should keep it out of public channels as it is interfering with the enjoyment of the game for another player.

[Rymm]

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It's sort of ironic that your example isn't actually RP in a public channel (what I was talking about in the post you quoted me) but party chat, which is considered a private channel.

That being said, I think my post on the second page of the thread already covered that I don't think it's appropriate for RPers to disturb dungeon runs with their RP by making themselves a nuisance and burden to people randomly assigned to them in the DF. In all honesty, I've never actually seen this type of thing before in the 1,500ish dungeons I've run in this game (and would certainly never do it myself) but people keep bringing it up so there must be someone out there stirring up trouble.

[Avatre]

It's sort of ironic that your example isn't actually RP in a public channel (what I was talking about in the post you quoted me) but party chat, which is considered a private channel.

While it can be argued that a party chat is a private channel, it can also be argued it's public when you use DF and get a random person who is not part of your group joining into the party.

As for your never seeing it in your "1,500ish dungeons", it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I rarely, if ever, get a bad DF group(and that's in my over 2,000 dungeon/trial runs). Does that mean they don't happen though others keep bringing it up? No, it just means I haven't experienced it to the state that others have.

[Naunet]

While I can't agree with Naunet's sentiment, I do understand that having someone refer to your preferred aspect of the game as <expletive> and tell you that you shouldn't be allowed to do it in public can make it feel like you are being antagonized.

Exactly.

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[Greedalox]

^ "Why is it so taboo in the community?"
"I wish I could intentionally piss you off and harass you against your wishes"

:^)

[Andanie]

I love roleplay! I've found most people who don't roleplay are simply indifferent to it. There are those that hate it though.

In those cases, for roleplay in general, it's the hierarchy of loserdom. I mean sure they play catpeople, weird elves, and creepy but adorable child-like races in one of the most anime mmo's ever, but at least they don't roleplay!

You can RP and eRP as much you want. I have a problem when you do it publicly and makes me cringe so hard.
Keep that shit to your RP LS/FC and keep it from /say/shout/yell and/or any other public chat

^Prime example.

ERP on the other hand is more of the hierarchy, but with added hate from roleplayers. "Well I rp but I don't erp!" Honestly though, there's nothing wrong with either so long as ERP is kept private and we rpers know when it's appropriate to roleplay. (IE not in a dungeon. I'M LOOKING AT YOU BARD WHO DIDN'T USE SONGS WHEN A ARMY's PAEON WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL AF) *coughs* excuse me.

But yes roleplay is fun and there's nothing wrong with it. Honestly though, ffxiv has a much more open minded community in regards to both roleplay and erp as far as I've seen.

[JumperX]

@rymm it is true that not many rpers behave as badly as that group, but I mentioned in a previous post, that first impression marks and forms a bad imagine of what a roleplayer is all about.

It is like hardcore players and the raiding system. I met with "elitist" players and are one of the most noble players in the community and then I met some who are narcissistics. Then again I met a few casual players posing as elitists (the ones with bad attitude) cuz who knows how they got a clear of "some difficult content" in game.

Human beings will only pay attention in the wrong and negative things cuz it is our nature and is a way for us to say don't do that it is bothering me and the other party wull continue doing it because it is my enjoyment and dont want to stop doing cuz it is fun.

May be the RP community need to check in those cazes cuz it is your community that is suffering with this type of imagine.

[Teppie]

I strongly support both. The issue I commonly run into though is purely one through misunderstanding. People feel as if ERP and RP never coexist, that it's either good story telling with developed characters, or mindless design tropes doing the deed. They casn both exist in the same genre. I enjoy ERP as much as regular RP, though for my part of it I enjoy slice of life RP and typically that ends in the bedroom. It doesn't have to mean anything, or cross new territory, or even progress the plot because in slice of life, there really isn't any constant plot that necessitates progression. It's just fun to write, and erotica is just something to write about.

Additionally one thing that people misunderstand about ERP is they believe it to be proxy sexting. Which is profoundly untrue, and it always gives me a disgusting taste in my mouth when people say it -has- to be with a girl IRL or a guy. Which completely negates the entire purpose, and makes it downright creepy.

If I can get on my soap box for a second, ERP has never been about sexting Tinder style, it's simply a narrative, a written story between two authors involving characters. It's no different than if a male artist drew a sexy female, or if a female drew a hot boy. The subject that is created matters, not the actual creator in this instance. That's where people seem to misunderstand and a lot of unwarranted hate comes from. People believing ERPers are just people trying to pretend they're getting with someone they can't get in reality. Those kinds of ERPers give honest to god writers, people who try their best everyday to improve their craft a bad name and a bad stigma.

[missybee]

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ERP isn't just a somewhat unconventional way of getting off?

I've been to Goldshire on Moon Guard...

Depends on the person at the keyboard. To some it's nothing more than a creative writing exorcise, to others it's simply interactive porn. I don't personally care for it either way, but I definitely have more respect for the former than the latter.

That makes sense, I suppose. I have always had a very narrow view about these sorts of things, but I am coming from a place of having my perception of RP / ERP being colored by early experiences with AOL chatrooms (gross).