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    Luna Faye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    This is like coming into a group of people having a civil discussion about something in a public place and telling them not to talk to each other because you personally think they shouldn't discuss things because you think it is pointless. If you think discussing things is pointless why do you come and read and post on a Discussion Forum? I will never understand people like this...."Don't discuss things I don't agree with!"
    You're proving my whole point. Read what stands there, not what you think stands there. I've never said you can't discuss anything, I said the discussion itself is pointless, because there will be no clear answers. You have the 5 people that read and write in the forums, that want a parser, but the forum community is not the ones that see the good in it. Therefore having that discussion, doesn't make any sense, because at the end it's just "no we don't want it because it's harassment", even if people show clear evidence or make good points in their arguments, that this wouldn't be the case. Words and sentences get twisted or misinterpreted because most people have made up their mind already, reading one part of a post, or half of the post and then think to themselves "hell no I know where's this going" and then we are back were we were. That's in my personal opinion not a discussion, it's a bias opinion nothing more, but whatever makes you happy at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    You're proving my whole point.
    if anything you are proving hers. we shouldn't discuss because for you it's pointless. If you are not interested in the disscusion move on and let other people do what makes them happy at the end? both of your post added nothing to the disscusion of the threat nor the main op which was a very good point of disscusion to come across, we are not specifically talking about parser we are talking about how this game has tight dps checks but then ignore the fact that dps has no form of measuring their performance or improve it with ingame means all the rotation and theory crafting that this community base themself on are made by a hardcore community of thery crafters and the use of parser without all the information the community has provided half of us would not be craking half of the potetial each class needs to meet those enrage times. yet we have them and they are a thing the game expects from you.


    if this disccusion is pointless for you then find another threat that pleases you and move on. I understand what you were trying to say, anti-parsing crow will deny any sort of susbtantial fact or argument because " I don''t want so we should not have it" but if anything this threat also helps make the devs know that this oppinion exist and we want something to help us. I think their sad attempt at not bringing this in to the game is the reason the skill ceiling on this game is so different between bad and good " not because players who want to be bad will continue to be bad" but because players who have no information know they are actually doing bad since they can't measure what they are contributing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    You're proving my whole point. Read what stands there, not what you think stands there. I've never said you can't discuss anything, I said the discussion itself is pointless
    No, like MyaValentine said all you are doing is showing the issue that I brought up about your original post I quoted.

    You post this:

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    Its the forum community, arguing just for the sake of arguing, because one of their streamers/guides doesn't approve/mentioning it.
    Which is basically just a thinly veiled insult to anyone who actively participates in any debate on this forum. You are basically saying everyone here argues for no reason and it is all pointless and has no value (and calling everyone streamer sheeple). To me that is pretty rude and wasn't necessary. You didn't post with the intent to talk about the topic of the thread; all you did was post in order to make fun of anyone who discusses things on the forum.

    Which is why I responded how I did. You may not have blatantly said "you can't discuss anything", but you definitely tried to make fun of anyone who was discussing which is in the end the same thing as saying "you can't discuss anything" because you'll make sure to come in and make fun of them for arguing. No one wants to be shamed for just participating in a social activity.

    I mean if you want to have that opinion then sure do it, but have some respect not to come in and make fun of the entire forum community for having a debate about something and using a discussion forum for what it is there for. If people are discussing a topic that you feel has no value then you have no obligation or necessity to join it. You think it is pointless, you think it has no value, fine, but don't join in just to make fun of people who think it does have value.

    Like I said before if you come across a group of people discussing a topic you don't like do you go over and tell them "stop arguing for the sake of arguing; your discussion is pointless"? Because that is basically what you did here. Does that sound like a nice thing to do? Does it sound like it was necessary to make fun of those people for their discussion when you could have just walked away?

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    That's in my personal opinion not a discussion, it's a bias opinion nothing more, but whatever makes you happy at the end.
    Discussion is discussion... it covers any and all things, including opinions. Yeah we talk about opinions a lot on this forum, but why is that somehow not a discussion anymore just because we are discussing opinions??
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    Last edited by Miste; 08-14-2017 at 04:32 AM.