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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    This is hilarious, but true.
    Because i'm that MCH.

    I've noticed that "parse hate" only comes from people, who actually not doing any Savage content and thus -> don't need this tool, which is normal.
    p.s. Again, parsing is only "needed" in hard Savage content.
    miunih evans on mogtalk expressed a distaste for both parse and fflogs yet he cleared savage week one so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    miunih evans on mogtalk expressed a distaste for both parse and fflogs yet he cleared savage week one so?
    Actually, this dislike was towards FFlogs not ACT. The former is where everyone uploads their numbers and measures e-peen/boobs whereas the parse itself just helps the individual player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, this dislike was towards FFlogs not ACT. The former is where everyone uploads their numbers and measures e-peen/boobs whereas the parse itself just helps the individual player.
    Yup FFLOGS can be a good thing as you can see see how well you perform compared to others, but the patted parses are not really helping and are actually are the bane of the parser community.

    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Or it stems from watching decent communities commence ripping themselves apart and devolving into epeen competitions where if you cannot do everything like world first raiders then "you are a piece of shit blight on the community that should just uninstall the game and you wont be allowed into any content." "Oh also that gear piece that just dropped is an upgrade for me so give it to me since you are a piece of shit blight on the community who is going to uninstall the game because I told you to or I will report you for trolling."

    Which has been basically every single MMO where parsing became common. I cannot for the life of me think of a single community where parsing actually made things better, and only made things worse for everyone not a top 10% hardest difficulty raider.
    Well those are just jerks, you have them without parses too. I avoid those people too because I think they are an embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Well those are just jerks, you have them without parses too. I avoid those people too because I think they are an embarrassment.
    They also multiply and become 10x more active when they have validation and "proof" they can throw around showing them as "right" in everything they say. Which parsers become that "proof" they will throw around. And the more common the parsers are the more support they get from other people who will nod and agree with them, if only to get them to shut up because they do not think that the company will ever get around to actually banning those people. Especially when they know they are in a system where they will likely never meet that person again... such as cross-realm/cross-world/cross-data center style systems such as duty finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Well those are just jerks, you have them without parses too. I avoid those people too because I think they are an embarrassment.
    Sorry, but with that sentence :
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The only excuse to be anti-parser would be playing the game laid back without any care about your own performance or straight out not wanting to bring anything to the table.
    you're part of the problem, even if you're not outright kicking people all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Sorry, but with that sentence :

    you're part of the problem, even if you're not outright kicking people all day long.
    That might be your opinion and you have every right to think so about me as you don't know me.
    What I meant is that those people most likely don't even know how bad they actually perform, me calling them out would do nothing. Giving them advice more often than not doesn't help either even with a friendly thone because they think they do good as they get through the dungeon...
    I only had one time where someone took me up to the offer and he actually improved by a alot. Some people just need that little push or they are left in the blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, this dislike was towards FFlogs not ACT. The former is where everyone uploads their numbers and measures e-peen/boobs whereas the parse itself just helps the individual player.
    Or upload someone else's numbers. Apparently someone uploaded my numbers onto FFlogs for Susano EX some many weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, this dislike was towards FFlogs not ACT. The former is where everyone uploads their numbers and measures e-peen/boobs whereas the parse itself just helps the individual player.
    It was a general dislike, because the misuse can happen with both and he was criticizing the bad influence they both have on the community based on the reception of WHM, where he said that ppl should judge after trying out things and not before.
    Point is that that it's not entirely true that only ppl who don't do savage dislike parsers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    It was a general dislike, because the misuse can happen with both and he was criticizing the bad influence they both have on the community based on the reception of WHM, where he said that ppl should judge after trying out things and not before.
    Point is that that it's not entirely true that only ppl who don't do savage dislike parsers
    I'm not sure how you can even begin the type that he was saying anything like that when anyone can just listen to what he actually said and know that what you wrote there is not even remotely related to it. Heres the actual part where he was complaining about it https://youtu.be/L42N_gc_-zI?t=2h4m25s. Its pretty obvious he was actually talking about people using padded parses to show their epeen and had nothing to do with actually disliking fflogs itself(during the rant he even talks about the right way to use fflogs)
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