How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[Mature]

The only way to improve is by seeing your numbers. Yes , we have a dummy to play around with. Some can break susano ex with a lot of seconds left and some with 1sc or 2sc and they think they doing well. Don't get me wrong you are doing something right BUT how can you optimize what you doing without knowing what is it that you are missing or doing wrong? Without knowledge of your input?

I still feel that a personal in game parser should be available for all.

V1s kinda proves the point.

[bswpayton]

Parsers are useles

Comments like this make zero sense at all. Again I'll use my , pvp example again so since numbers don't matter. If ur a rookie at pvp u start pvp and at first ur doing ten k damage and zero kills etc. So ur telling me when u start to see 100k damage 80 k damage as opposed to where u started seeing that improvement means nothing becaause for me it did when I go into pvp front lines nine times out of ten I'm not winning. But what I can do is look at my on personal stats of improvement because Se will actually show us numbers there unlike pve

[Reynhart]

So ur telling me when u start to see 100k damage 80 k damage as opposed to where u started seeing that improvement means nothing

You have it completely backwards. So, you're doing 10k damage, then what ? Again, no parser will tell you why you did such low damage.

What the game already offers, however, is training dummies tailored to a specific ilvl. So, you go to the corresponding dummy, and you realize that you can't kill it. There, it tells you the same information that a parser does : You're not doing enough damage.

With that information, you look at guides, seek advice, and improve yourself, without ever needing an actual damage number. And when you go back to the dummy, you now realize that, first, you can kill it, and second, that you have a fair amount of time remaining. That sure means something, but again, you don't need a parser for that.

[Skogli]

Honestly, parsers are a waste of space in this game. The ui is full enough already. It's not needed at all. You practice on dummies and practice run. That's how this game is played.

Oh and as a note. Look at wow. Just look at how much vile and hate the dps meters bring to the game. It's at a point where a simple parser is locking potential raiders out of progression. Take a step back an think for a second.

Look at this game. Look at how much time you spend training, figuring out and improving focus just to down that broken AF boss! That's the game right there! Simplify the process and you're back here complaining about dead game, nothing to do, rip, fire content producers etc etc. Trust in square. They've shown theyre more than capable to handle ffxiv.

[bswpayton]

Honestly, parsers are a waste of space in this game. The ui is full enough already. It's not needed at all. You practice on dummies and
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What game are you even talkin about I dono what game your talkin about but , this game isnt friendly nor nice this is just people and they can be toxic parser or not. This is still the game where people leave duties right away when they see new players, the same one where people leave pratice groups in two seconds, same one that has no bonus in every group even in unsync runs. So stop pretending like a parser would make things worse if people are rude they will be rude anyway. And again no it may not be called a parse but SE already shows us damage in pvp and I wouldnt say thats anymore toxic than pve is currently. And also most people that do endgame would like to know how they are preforming otherwise what are they even doing it for?

[Skogli]

What game are you even talkin about I dono what game your talkin about but , this game isnt friendly nor nice this is just people and they can be toxic parser or not. This is still the game where people leave duties right away when they see new players, the same one where people leave pratice groups in two seconds, same one that has no bonus in every group even in unsync runs. So stop pretending like a parser would make things worse if people are rude they will be rude anyway. And again no it may not be called a parse but SE already shows us damage in pvp and I wouldnt say thats anymore toxic than pve is currently. And also most people that do endgame would like to know how they are preforming otherwise what are they even doing it for?

Do you need a parser to know if you're good or bad? You're blind then.

[HyoMinPark]

Do you need a parser to know if you're good or bad? You're blind then.

It's not knowing if you're "good" or "bad," but if your performance is up to what you either 1. seem to think it is, or 2. what you would like it to be. This game doesn't provide any way of knowing either of those. So many people think that the enmity bars are an adequate measure of overall DPS and performance when the reality is, is that they are not. Highest enmity =/= highest DPS/performance. There is nothing wrong with wanting a parser to give you a visual, numerical indicator of your performance. That doesn't make one "blind."

Toxicity will exist with a parser or without one. It doesn't matter one way or the other. No one can accurately say that toxicity will increase or decrease with the addition of parsers, or with increased/stricter monitoring on SE's part with regards to parsers. All anyone can say is that it will continue to exist regardless.

Like I said above: don't blame the tool just because people decide to use it for the wrong reasons.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So many people think that the enmity bars are an adequate measure of overall DPS and performance when the reality is, is that they are not.

I want to grab this because it highlights a significant problem. I assume enough people posting here know of NEST, yes? They actually talked about enmity equally high DPS. Why bring them up? Because they a popular group on Youtube, which means other people will listen to them. For example, Samurai has a slow build up. Tanks should fear Red Mages, Black Mages or Bards long before they fear a Samurai catching them on the enmity bar. They will without Division but you wouldn't know it if you simply glanced at that bar occasionally.

A parse allows people to see their exact damage, which they can directly compare to other players: "This Samurai did 4,500 in V1N? What's he doing and how can I do that?"

[Skogli]

It's not knowing if you're "good" or "bad," but if your performance is up to what you either 1.

Like I said above: don't blame the tool just because people decide to use it for the wrong reasons.

It's not my damage, it's our damage. The group needs to work as one to raid in this game. Dps isn't all there is to down a boss, but if parser becomes a thing then it's gonna become all about those numbers.

You can use it responsibly? Great! A lot of other people can't and won't. It adds way too little of value compared to how shortsighted it makes the game.

Try asking your raid group to help you improve by looking at and analyzing your preformance. Teamwork and actual interaction.

[eschaton]

The ps4 argument is extremely funny. Imagine PC users are saying PS4 users need to 'improve' based on numbers generated on PC setups? PS4 user; if you really, really, really want to play as a PC player, get a PC with a Logitech Gaming setup and all. You'll reach those numbers in no-time, promised, and you'll get mechanics called out by the same program, and you can use /shout chat to tell people everything is 'too easy' and stuff.

A SE made number-shower on a PS4 will never let you reach PC parse numbers, on the contrary, you'll be thinking you are doing 'bad' even when you are doing 'fine' or even 'great'! You cannot compare those numbers on different systems / setups and what is available to those systems software and hardware wise. Comparing oranges and apples never made sense. Never.

IF there was a PS4 parser it should be completely separated from the PC one. And guess what? You'll see the different results. Let's guess if this will result in toxic discussions, or not?

So if SE would make a parser there should be separate ones for each system, also the 'extra' options can't be available to just one or the other. Will the PC version be blacklisted? Will they add savage mechanic call-outs and other tricks to the PS4 version? It all doesn't make sense. At all. Can't you guys see why this is a grey area? Are you really that dense?

Pffff... well to be a little constructive still, the worst you could do now on PS4, as your whole 'improvement' group or even 'improvement' guild won't be playing on ps4, is asking a PC parser-user-player in your group / guild to see where your numbers are low 'relatively' speaking in a fight (as he/she can't use a direct comparison to any PC numbers), then you can 'improve' on that rotation / mechanic by doing it over and over again, and he/she will confirm that you did do better. Basically tell you what you already knew, for that situation you thought you needed a parse, and move on. The best thing you could do now on PS4 if you want to reach those PC number rotations; get a bloody PC with gaming hardware, install your Logitech Gaming stuff, install everything else needed from google, and reach those numbers while watching anime. Much love and have fun. <3