SMN 4.06 Changes

[dinnertime]

First, you can't just have Ruin under one umbrella, they all do different things. Ruin is designed as SMN's go to DPS, Ruin II is an instant spell, Ruin III is designed to be used during Dreadwrym Trance and Ruin IV which does share a slot with Ruin/RuinIII has a chance to proc.

I'd rather have Ruin gone and replace it with Ruin III with the same low MP cost being your go-to spell, while replacing it with Ruin IV only during DWT. Ruin II can stay the same.

They should just get rid of Ruin already. It does pathetic damage. How Ruin III is designed is really nothing special to me either.

[Xie_Belvoule]

I'd rather have Ruin gone and replace it with Ruin III with the same low MP cost being your go-to spell, while replacing it with Ruin IV only during DWT. Ruin II can stay the same.

They should just get rid of Ruin already. It does pathetic damage. How Ruin III is designed is really nothing special to me either.

This %100, combine Ruin and Ruin 3. Make ruin 4 always proc during DWT just like in pvp.

[Dyvid]

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Ruin

Mentioned this in another thread:
Ruin I : 100 Potency instant cast
Ruin II : Change to Ruinga, 40 or 50 Potency AoE attack
Ruin III : Lower MP cost to be used outside of DWT then change it to higher potency in DWT
Ruin IV : Instant Cast

Another thing I would like to see and mentioned in my Demi-Bahamut makeover is ruin causing pet skills proc. Basically a __% chance that ruin would proc a pet"s basic attack (Burning Strike, Wind Blade, Wyrmwave) into a strong attack (Meteor Strike, Slipstream, Mega-Flare).

Another thought would be to rework Titan Egi from a tank to a defensive buff/debuff pet and replace Garuda Egi's stupid Shock wave with razor plume; a DoT attack.

[Komaku]

I'd rather have Ruin gone and replace it with Ruin III with the same low MP cost being your go-to spell while replacing it with Ruin IV only during DWT. Ruin II can stay the same.

They should just get rid of Ruin already. It does pathetic damage. How Ruin III is designed is really nothing special to me either.

I agree if they are going to make it so abilities change depending on what stance you're in for other classes. They could easily make it so by default when you're in Dreadwyrm trance that Ruin III replaces Ruin or as you suggested just have Ruin III by default replace Ruin and Ruin 4 only show up during Dreadwyrm trance.

In my honest opinion though the ruin shuffle isn't the biggest problem it is the Aertherflow issue being locked out of using it till after you have exhausted Dreadwyrm trance really slows down a summoners rotation.