It is time to get a 3rd free Retainer

[Kazrah]

I conceded you have a point and asked for civil discussion. Dismissal of someone offhand doesn't make for very convincing back and forth. Why do you insist on being snippy about it? Just because you were right about one thing doesn't mean I'm wrong about everything and have no information to share that's useful or pertinent.

Because at least in this case, it honestly feels like you kinda don't have any useful information here. They have the space, we know the space is there, and not only is the demand for more space present, but even devs have claimed that more space is needed because of more items being put into the game just with the launch of 4.0 than players have additional storage space for.

2 dollars a month times however many thousands of subscribers is a substantial amount of money. cash shops are one time payments, how many people buy a mount every month? you'd run out of things to buy pretty quickly. Recurring monthly payments are what keeps the servers and people who support the active game going. Cellphone companies realized that a while ago when they decided to subsidize the costs of the phones they were selling. The phones weren't actually free, the companies realized they could make far more money stretched out over 2 years than the phone was worth.

Thousands? More like dozens. Either way, still nowhere near enough income to match people paying for one-time items, especially when 1) you don't know how many people are buying items for other people, 2) there are consumable items purchased from the cash shop that may be brought more than once by some customers, and 3) you're not factoring in the costs of server transfers, which happen every single and give WAY more money every month than they get from saps paying for extra retainers.

Once again, once the money is coming in they can support the extra load. You wouldn't stock your own store with more than you thought you could sell that month. That would be frozen assets that may end up wasted money. Likewise they will not up their capacity until it's absolutely needed. I'm not sure what sources you think all this other money is coming from. Sure there's a cash shop but I don't think it makes half as much money as constant subscriptions potentially can.

Frozen assets aren't as damaging as customers leaving because you can't keep up stock. Plus we know that prior to the release of Heavensward (two years ago now), the income from the cash shop was used to get the EU datacenter, so we are plenty aware of what money can be gained from that cash shop.

Because I've run servers and administrate a statewide network. That and I know that dumping money into them first without gauging need is a poor investment even on a small scale. In addition to our space needed for items and retainer information they get DDOS attacks, network issues happen and have to be dealt with. I don't think you're considering that giving every single active account another retainer is quite a load increase. I'm NOT arguing AGAINST it, honestly I would LOVE another free retainer. I'm trying to put some perspective out there.

I've dealt with networks too and I understand what you're trying to explain, but I don't think you're considering that the load space is already there AND they have already gauged the need for more inventory space. It's also why I would rather see the third retainer as free than increasing armory and inventory space even further, which would put WAY more stress on the servers. This is not adding an extra retainer (the maximum retainer limit is fine right where it is). This is simply making the third retainer cost nothing. Barely any profit lost, and it could most likely be made up with the number of people who'd come back after quitting because of this issue and even surpassed by players having more money to spend on more cash shop items for example.

you are putting supply ahead of demand again. You don't surplus supply if you don't have to. A gradual uptick in people purchasing extra retainers (and it would be gradual, it would be highly unlikely everyone or even the majority of the playerbase would buy new retainers all at once.) would show SE they need to upgrade and the money would be there to justify it to investors and the devs.

No, I'm putting decency ahead of supply and demand. We shouldn't have to be kicking and screaming about it on the forums when devs are fully aware that this is a problem.

Yes, vote with your wallet PLEASE. if you feel this game isn't worth it go ahead and quit. It WILL show them that something has to be done.

Or we can keep talking about it on these forums, which SURPRISE, people at Square-Enix actually read! The more it's brought up here, the more likely devs might take notice of it.

I don't know why you think I'm blindly supporting a company.

Re-read your posts while pretending like you didn't write them.

Realize though that any time you are paying a sub to ANY game, you are essentially "renting" your storage space, it's just part of the sub.

Yes, a basic level of storage, and no other game do you have to constantly pay more real-life money to have adequate storage space. Actually in most major MMORPGs, you don't have to pay real-life money for adequate storage space at all. Maybe a couple of them offering one-time fees for extra permanent storage space, but you don't have to increase your subscription fee just to have a necessary amount of storage space.