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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Except you tried to point out that SE doesn't have something that it should already have.
    I conceded you have a point and asked for civil discussion. Dismissal of someone offhand doesn't make for very convincing back and forth. Why do you insist on being snippy about it? Just because you were right about one thing doesn't mean I'm wrong about everything and have no information to share that's useful or pertinent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Hired retainers are what, $2 a month or so? That's not going to put a bump into any real budget compared to anything else available from their cash shop.
    2 dollars a month times however many thousands of subscribers is a substantial amount of money. cash shops are one time payments, how many people buy a mount every month? you'd run out of things to buy pretty quickly. Recurring monthly payments are what keeps the servers and people who support the active game going. Cellphone companies realized that a while ago when they decided to subsidize the costs of the phones they were selling. The phones weren't actually free, the companies realized they could make far more money stretched out over 2 years than the phone was worth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Here's a thought then: why would they try to sell something if their servers couldn't handle the load for it? Sure, you could argue that the money would go toward ensuring the server load with the increased capacity or something like that, but again, there's way more money they're getting from other sources that people actually agree is worth money.
    Once again, once the money is coming in they can support the extra load. You wouldn't stock your own store with more than you thought you could sell that month. That would be frozen assets that may end up wasted money. Likewise they will not up their capacity until it's absolutely needed. I'm not sure what sources you think all this other money is coming from. Sure there's a cash shop but I don't think it makes half as much money as constant subscriptions potentially can.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Why do you keep talking about the servers as if they're made of coconuts? Yes, they're not always run at max capacity, but making a third retainer free instead of having to pay for it would use server space that should already be available wouldn't be running them at max capacity, and the servers would probably be just as stable as they are now.
    Because I've run servers and administrate a statewide network. That and I know that dumping money into them first without gauging need is a poor investment even on a small scale. In addition to our space needed for items and retainer information they get DDOS attacks, network issues happen and have to be dealt with. I don't think you're considering that giving every single active account another retainer is quite a load increase. I'm NOT arguing AGAINST it, honestly I would LOVE another free retainer. I'm trying to put some perspective out there.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Demand has increased, and although some adjustments have been made such as increased inventory and armory space, it's still nowhere near enough because of more items being put into the game. Increasing inventory and armory space would put more strain on servers than simply making the third retainer free since again, that would use resources that SE should already have unless you've been paying something you actually don't have.
    you are putting supply ahead of demand again. You don't surplus supply if you don't have to. A gradual uptick in people purchasing extra retainers (and it would be gradual, it would be highly unlikely everyone or even the majority of the playerbase would buy new retainers all at once.) would show SE they need to upgrade and the money would be there to justify it to investors and the devs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    What do you think would lose more money a month: people not paying a small, yet pointless monthly fee for one more retainer, or people not paying for a game subscription because of how fed up they are with not only how little inventory space is available, but that this is the only MMORPG on the market where you have to use real-life currency to rent--not pay, rent--additional storage space on top of having to pay for a subscription?
    Yes, vote with your wallet PLEASE. if you feel this game isn't worth it go ahead and quit. It WILL show them that something has to be done. I don't know why you think I'm blindly supporting a company. Loyalty to a company is stupid. Even if I worked for them I'd have this viewpoint. Realize though that any time you are paying a sub to ANY game, you are essentially "renting" your storage space, it's just part of the sub.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 08-10-2017 at 02:02 AM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?