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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercureXI View Post
    So you'd have a dude on a pet, tanking ... ok ...
    There's a whole conversation that could be had on that. There's two approaches available for BST as a tank. One would be similar to how SCH is built with the pet serving some mitigation function. The other would be the BST riding their pet into battle as the "tank stance", combining the stats of both. I'm partial to the latter, though the low hanging fruit of why that wouldn't work is due to Roegadyn and how huge they'd be riding on top of a wolf/bear/turtle. Imagine a party with a SMN that has summoned Bahamut and the tank being a roegadyn BST riding a bear; you'd probably be able to see very little of what's going on.

    The former runs into issues of pet responsiveness and how the current system could screw over a BST tanking when trying to mitigate a tank buster or high-damage phase.

    I won't dent that it would take work to make BST a reality, but that's what the devs get paid for. Using XI as a template is not a good idea, since XI's BST was a mess by design and didn't have much that made it stand out aside from charm and jug pets.

    On DNC: First, here.

    Second, a lot of the FFXI stuff would need to be retooled for it to work here. Fan Dance would most likely be a defensive cooldown rather than a stance. Steps could go either way as debuffs or as buffs that give the DNC an advantage over whatever it is they're tanking. And I agree that Healing Waltz would be a no-brainer in terms of self healing.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Mercure Rudra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
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    Yeah good luck pinpointing safe spots during huge AoEs with a huge pet covering the area

    But I like the idea of having BST back in XIV anyway, just think tanking might be a harder transition than dps, since you could be way more creative with "attacks" using its pet if you focus on the damage dealing component.


    About Fan Dance, it could just be "yet another" damage down stance, since the actual skill in XI was kinda paired with Utsusemi, and XIV having no evasion-tank (yet), that could be hard to work with it ... But a cooldown could work too of course ...
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    Last edited by MercureXI; 08-09-2017 at 03:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercureXI View Post
    snip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Railage View Post
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    Thanks for your valuable input ...
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