Thread: 5.0 Beastmaster: keep it fierce please

Im not against the idea of bst becoming tank but i can see the problems with it.
1. Would need to rework the hud for pt so healers have an easier time healing pet.
2. It will be a huge pain the arse to do any real mechanics where the boss needs to be moved or dodge aoe. Just moving my chocobo out of hunts aoe is an ordeal.
3. If they were to fix said 2 issues above it would become essentially the most op tank job. And this is assuming the pet does the tanking. With a bst or 2x bst in a full pt its like your having 9-10 people instead of 8. So this is like having 1 crappy dps tank and 1 dps job that has to manage pet, because if the pet dies your still @ full pt. If soloing im sure its fine to have pet tank but when in pts it just seems a bit overpowered.
I can see bst being like brd but melee.

Positioning is probably the most important part of our role. Remote-control tanking sounds like a novel idea, but I think that it would wear thin on your melee pretty fast on any fight requiring movement (especially given the level of responsiveness we get from this game's pet system).

It could work from a flavour standpoint if your pet jumps in to intercept attacks for you, as was suggested earlier, but I think that your character should be still the primary means of positioning things. Alternatively, if the goal is just to have something beast-themed, an alternative for either BLU or BST would be to shapeshift into the beast.

A melee sage that fight with a wooden stick....Like a irl shaolin fighter, then have some trait like a jester that "taunt" enemy with funny martial art moves, like jackie chan~

Pet jobs have always been a problem to balance in FFXI, either OP or terrible, depending on updates.

Better have Dancer as new tank job, it was very good in FFXI and very versatile (dps tank healer party-buffs, depending on events).

Could be easily used in FFXIV as tank ...

Originally Posted by MercureXI

Could be easily used in FFXIV as tank ...

No, it really isn't easily used. It can't wear existing tank gear and thus creates a major itemization issue. Not to mention its not a popular job archetype. There are vocal people who want it, but from the get-go it's a very niche thing and they need to be picking something that has more widespread appeal.

I would not be surprised if dancer never gets added to the game, there's honestly little reason to add it when we get plenty of dance emotes all the time. They've never even mentioned it as ever being in the running for consideration for being added to the game.

Originally Posted by Shippuu

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BST wearing heavy armor doesn't make much more sense if you wanna talk about itemization ...

Was talking ability wise anyway, DNC makes much more sense as a tank than BST if you refer to FFXI : Saber Dance / Fan Dance are definitely easy to use as the tank's stances (was kinda the case in XI anyway), and a lot of the job's abilities would be a nice addition to XIV (sambas, etc).

There's so much more to DNC than ... dance emotes >_>

While BST would add ... what ? A reskinned Titan Egi that would tank for you while you use axe skills and feed him with Zeta biscuits ?

What a thrill ...

Originally Posted by MercureXI

BST wearing heavy armor doesn't make much more sense if you wanna talk about itemization ...

Except that it does? Many times BST has been depicted in heavier armor, and the idea of a wild beast tamer wearing heavy furs and bone armor is entirely in-line with their visual identity.



Armor such as this would be completely fitting for Beastmaster and can definitely fall under the category of Fending.

Was talking ability wise anyway, DNC makes much more sense as a tank than BST if you refer to FFXI

Name a single Job that was in FFXI that plays the same or has the exact same abilities as it does in FFXIV. If you want FFXI's dancers, go play FFXI. If dancer ever gets added to 14 it will be nothing like it was in XI so your example is entirely pointless.

While BST would add ... what ? A reskinned Titan Egi that would tank for you while you use axe skills and feed him with Zeta biscuits ?

Hilarious you dismiss Beastmaster as being incapable of anything unique yet sing Dancer's praises as being rife with opportunity. You clearly show a lack of creativity if you think that's the case. I can think of a simple concept alone that would make a Beastmaster tank leagues more interesting than Dancer could ever be, and that's the notion of a mounted Tank. A fighter who does battle while atop a powerful beast. It's a common fantasy trope but one that would be incredibly unique within the makeup of the game's existing jobs.