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  1. #91
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    Alaina's Avatar
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    Alaina Claire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Rogue Lv 71
    if you can't beat the dummy, your individual dps isn't high enough. if you hit the enrage, your overall dps isn't high enough. fairly certain they tell you if your dps isn't high enough
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  2. #92
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaStrongtan View Post
    Why not just a personal parser you can toggle on and off at will. No one can judge you since only you will see your numbers and you don't even have to use it. But if you want you have a clear number directly on your screen.
    I think alot of players would like this, but it would still not fix the issue why people want parsers in the first place. The reason why people want parsers is to confront the underpreformers with their low DPS. The goal is to say: "You are doing low damage, here is the proof, please improve or you are going to be kicked from the group" Its all about showing the underpreformer that they are being carried, this will hopefully make them want to improve. Personal Parsers is good and all I prefer personal, but I can understand why a party parser is needed.

    On the otherhand sometimes parsers are not needed to know when someone is underpreforming. I have seen to many Black Mages not casting any Fire IV, let alone Foul.
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    Last edited by Laerune; 08-08-2017 at 07:02 PM.

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    wanted to post but decided not to

  4. #93
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    Zeonsilt's Avatar
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    Evan Lionheart
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
    When doing normal rotations and stuff, enrage is -not- about your entitled parse numbers, it is about how often people are dying, or being obviously totally afk. (-min ilevel requirements and all that jazz-)

    Parses are not needed, were never needed and are mostly used for engaging in toxic behavior. The "people improve with parsing"-myth slander is appalling; people improve with playing, that's all there is to it, repeated playing, all that is needed. Grow up. If you want numbers, there are these gray area's and keep them to yourself. Bai bai.
    Parsers are needed in Savage content. (like Omega 3.0/4.0 Savage)

    For example, if your raid DPS is around 20k on O3S, you will not clear it. Dying or not doesn't have anything to do with it. If a raid DPS is around 20K without anyone dying and people doing mechanics correctly, that group still will not be able to clear O3S due to minimal Raid DPS requirement, which is around 23K (if i remember correctly, maybe +/- 500). Otherwise, Madame Hallicarnassus will say "Bai bai" to that group.

    At least, if you run a parser in PUG, you can see that much.

    I know that ignorance is a bliss, but if someone would like to tackle Omega 3.0 Savage and further, they need to know that at least.
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  5. #94
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    Parsers are needed in Savage content. (like Omega 3.0/4.0 Savage)
    Tbh, this is applicable even in V1S/V2S. I've done a few PFs trying to help some friends clear after seeing enrage multiple times, and some of the groups I have been in just don't have the overall raid DPS to clear the fight. Even in groups where there haven't been excessive deaths, there just wasn't enough outgoing DPS to clear the fights. This could be due to any number of things (gear, rotations, laziness of party members, etc.).

    So this just goes back to what I said in my original response to this individual that meeting enrage is far more than just "not dying and pressing 1-2-3."
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  6. #95
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Man I wish I had a parser for ps4.......I want nothing more than to experiment and self improve.
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  7. #96
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Yesterday a friend wrote in chat that we should have at least a personal parser and I agree with him. If we cant get one for the whole group then give us at least a personal one. Those who are unwilling to learn will never learn but those that want to get better will have a way to see their numbers. Beating up the dummy only tells you if you can do the minimum amount of DPS or not. Also this is a fight without any mechanics. Being able to see your own DPS after true bosses would be way better. And it would give us finally a tool that shows every Dot correctly.
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  8. #97
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    I saw an O3S "clear" PF the other day and the leader wrote they would kick anyone who dies. Of course this person doesn't put up much damage in the first place.

    One of my raid groups we cleared O3S during the first week with several deaths.

    It's okay, mistakes can happen in there because all you have to do is mess up your footing in minijack and you are dead. I'm sorry this person's expectations were so low, but it's really because they are part of the people who can't play their jobs to an acceptable level. It's just appalling some people are getting carried along with their unacceptable damage they finally hit a wall and want to blame others for their problems.
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  9. #98
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I'd like a personal parse at the end of a fight to show you how you did - and perhaps, since it's watching your rotation anyway, tell you what you could do better.

    I still think an Allagan control room (with Faust at the helm) where you could simulate battles would be FANTASTIC.
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  10. #99
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    You know, this tier's "Faust" is ExDeath in O4S. Good and bad in a way. See I kind of miss A1S Faust a bit because that kept the bad players out of Gordias Savage for awhile. He was the dummy that you had to put everything in. Even if you came in there without a Ravana Extreme weapon, you were automatically unworthy.

    Now we get an O1S that can be road-killed pretty easily so bad dps players just keep moving on.
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  11. #100
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Centershock View Post
    That's just it. Toxic behavior (not just on parsers but
    If youve ever played pvp why is it Iv never once heard someone call someone else out for having 0 kills 0 damage on another player, and like 10 damage on ice, and like five deaths. This is what everyone can see after, a pvp match is over so why can they show us everything aside from damage per second in pvp. So how can they have a cery system in the game that tracks everything in pvp, but yet nothing at all in pve that just seems backwards to me because alot of people use pve more. If such a system didnt exist I wouldnt of even made this post, because I know yoshi has even walked out of an interview about about questions about a parser.
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