RDM's Vercure should be removed or heavily nerfed

[Kaurhz]

I mean if they really wanted to add complexity and punishment (with slight reward potential) vercure could generate moderate white mana like 8-12 and verraise a large amount of white mana like 15-25.

The current system is fine but if they ever want to tie it to mechanics, overuse equating un unbalanced mana could be a thing.

It would be nice to see, but then I can't help but saying having vercure increase white mana would only aid people soloing content. I wouldn't entirely object to it decreasing the gauge though. Or the potency of vercure depending partially, or entirely on how much white mana one has accumulated

P.S. I feel deeply sorry for anyone who suffers with delay when on this class, I wouldn't wish it upon anyone (a tad salty)

[Rawrz]

P.S. I feel deeply sorry for anyone who suffers with delay when on this class, I wouldn't wish it upon anyone (a tad salty)

It's sooooo bad. :[ I was in V4s and every opener I could not catch a break.

Precast VerThunder->VerAero Hardcasts right right with Dual cast as a buff on my while casting... wut... :[

[Nirokun]

On that note to people that say RDM needs a nerf, or to be redesigned to be more difficult, I'd love to see what 'system' they'd put in place..

Drastically lower the duration of Impactful/Verstone/Verfire Ready buffs. A shortened duration would make it harder to hold the procs to keep the gauge balanced while fishing for other procs and using oGCDs.

[Llugen]

This whole thread is tl;dr but I'm going to agree. If nothing else, increase its MP cost to double or triple what it currently is; ideally you don't want to be using it anyway because it's a DPS loss but the point is you CAN use it if you HAVE TO and it's unfair for the other two casters (on top of everything else that RDM offers).

If it was up to me I would fix the cast time on verraise and make it so neither vercure nor verraise could be dualcast. That would be balanced enough.

[AbelArchaniEA]

OP stop crying for Nerfs. They have already said that thy will balance all jobs and bring their damage in line with SAM and RDM. Im a SMN btw. Stop these posts

[Llugen]

Red mage damage is fine mostly, it just needs embolden to work like the other class's damage increase buffs (devotion and eye of the dragon) by selecting the user for 10% and one other player for 5%, and removing the ability to dualcast verraise/vercure (while fixing verraise's cast time to be in line with the other raise skills).

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

the other class's damage increase buffs (devotion and eye of the dragon) by selecting the user for 10% and one other player for 5%).

Why not have Embolden just buff the user for 5% and the other physical party members for 20%? It's supposed to be more supportive anyway, so it'll just nip it's own numbers in the slightly while making it more clearly support.

[Nezerius]

If nothing else, increase its MP cost to double or triple what it currently is

Are you high? You know that's almost 1/2 or 3/4th of the MP pool right? All this would do is stop RDMs from ever casting verraise.

If it was up to me I would fix the cast time on verraise and make it so neither vercure nor verraise could be dualcast. That would be balanced enough.

If you really want to limit verraise, just give it a system similar to battle res in WoW. Only allow a limited amount of verraise casts to be used per fight, resetting on a wipe.

[Llugen]

Because it's already way stronger than anything the other casters have, and realistically that's the biggest issue with it: it makes the other ones obsolete. Why take a poor summoner when you can buff everyone else in the party? As long as tanks are always melee save for 12 seconds worth of requiescat, melee favored comp will always win. RIP BLM and SMN.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

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It's so unfair that BLM has unlimited mana, give Umbral Ice to RDM and SMN. It's so unfair that BLM just gets to shield for 20% of their health. And they have ridiculous damage, how unfair. BLM and SMN don't have any thematic reason to be good healers or raisers. Their design philosophy is about experiencing the uniqueness of a job. RDM is uniquely equipped to provide emergency Raises and Vercures, it's part of their flavor, they're not going to touch either of them and they're certainly not going to increase the MP cost, if it's too expensive to use there's no point in even having it, giving an axe to RDM's flavor, which is more of a priority to them than "fairness". Any competent SMN or BLM can get into a party, no point in declaring RIP BLM and SMN.