Remove PLD Utility?

[Dortharl]

Removing pld utility moves wouldn't change the meta since even without them, pld would still be the better designed tank overall.
They are easier to play, have sustained dps that's less impacted by mechanics, can completely skip mechanics with HG, and good passive mitigation from blocks.
It would balance out the tanks a bit more though

Saying PLD is easier to play than WAR is ridiculous, and the skipping of mechanics with HG does not work anymore. If you wish to critique class design you should limit the hyperbole. At this point I'm glad SE does not balance classes using community feedback because this forum has become farcical.

[Shinkyo]

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What's ridiculous about PLD being easier to play exactly? Everything in their rotation lines up perfectly and hardly anything hurts their DPS uptime.
Playing PLD from a DPS standpoint is like driving with a GPS and with green lights all the way.
In comparison, DRK can only outdps PLD if they maximize buff windows like Trick Attack which requires planning and gauge management.
WAR is the most complex of tanks from a rotation standpoint and their dps sinks if they have to deal with mechanics.


As for HG, even if you still get debuffed now, it's still allows you to ignore mechanics and survive with little burden to your healers.
You fucked up mindjack in V3S and walked to the wrong location? Hallowed will save you.

And no I am not criticizing class design, on the contrary I'm just highlighting how well PLD is designed currently.
As for the other Tanks, both WAR and DRK currently suffer from having 1 skill that are completely Core to their class (IR, TBN) which hurts you a great deal when you're not in a position to use it. It's not all bad per say but PLD doesn't have that issue.