Request for Super Savage difficulty

[loreleidiangelo]

I don't even understand how people can argue against this. There are tons of achievements in the game that require months of slow real-time effort or pure luck, like the gillionaire or commendation achievements, but no one's complaining about how long it takes to get those unique, special items/titles. Why complain about the devs making something that you can, with time, power through if you really want it bad enough? That's what super savage should mean, after all, if you try your hardest and take the time to learn it, the fight would be doable, even if you aren't a top 1% player. You won't be one of the first ones, and it may take months, even years of trial and error, but it's never going to be impossible if you truly want it. You guys are acting like there's absolutely no way in hell that most people can get it, when in reality you just want them to hand you a super savage reward without effort.

I don't think it's that people want a Super Savage reward handed to them without effort, I just think it's that they don't want to see someone else have it and somehow feel like they're "less than". Better to just remove any sort of ilevel disparity, titles, mounts or minions that point out that someone is probably likely a better player at a video game than you. (Why does this even bother people, anyway?)

Reminds me of all the sarcastic/bitter remarks about people parading their rare raid mount around in Idyllshire, when no one bats an eyelash at showcasing the newest FotM hardcore expensive crafted glamour outfit. Find your achievements and personal satisfaction in your own way, and quit buggering over what has worth to other people.

[Lambdafish]

I don't think it's that people want a Super Savage reward handed to them without effort, I just think it's that they don't want to see someone else have it and somehow feel like they're "less than".

You sound really bitter, and seem to be putting words in my mouth. I never once talked about the community, only the content and reward system from a mechanics standpoint. Just like ANY GAME OR SPORT EVER trophies are a sign of achievement, a symbol of accomplishment. What I have an issue with is changing the conditions to get said trophy while keeping the trophy itself, it literally undermines the achievement of anyone who got it before that point (it doesnt matter if other people are getting it or not, the nerf itself is the problem).

Oh and before you say "They have their own personal achievement", what is the point of having rewards in the game at all if that is your mentality? It boggles my mind that people in this game don't understand basic reward structure, or think that this game is any different to other games in any genre, where special rewards are put in place for doing the most difficult or advanced parts of the game.

[loreleidiangelo]

You sound really bitter, and seem to be putting words in my mouth. I never once talked about the community, only the content and reward system from a mechanics standpoint. Just like ANY GAME OR SPORT EVER trophies are a sign of achievement, a symbol of accomplishment. What I have an issue with is changing the conditions to get said trophy while keeping the trophy itself, it literally undermines the achievement of anyone who got it before that point (it doesnt matter if other people are getting it or not, the nerf itself is the problem).

Oh and before you say "They have their own personal achievement", what is the point of having rewards in the game at all if that is your mentality? It boggles my mind that people in this game don't understand basic reward structure, or think that this game is any different to other games in any genre, where special rewards are put in place for doing the most difficult or advanced parts of the game.

? Not sure why you're arguing with me, I'm agreeing with you. I think that there should be some distinguished marker for people to show off if they've chosen to engage in a difficult time commitment like Super Savage may possibly be. But people are basically saying that since only 1% will have it, it shouldn't exist, and I don't agree with that notion. It doesn't bother me that only 1% of people win the Jumbo Cactpot or whatever, and that's not even something you can reasonably "work" towards like a raid clear.

[Lambdafish]

? Not sure why you're arguing with me, I'm agreeing with you.

Even rereading your post I didn't get that vibe, but I apologize regardless. I read it as "People will be upset if people are parading around with their rewards, and they will feel inferior because they can't get them, better to remove rewards like that". Your latest post is much more agreeable, and even a small distinguishing mark would be a good way to reward players (similar to Yokai), I could imagine a version of the O4S mount, but golden, be a good reward for the super savage encounter.