Studying The Blade- The SAM DPS Guide

[Ariyn]

Then do the 3 Sen of opener. It requires a lot more Sks to break - 1783 according to Dervy.
Sks is also weighted at the highest with 0.15 (weighted for 320) compared to 0.13 for DH. However, it loses value when there's downtime or disconnects with the boss.

3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

[Allyrion]

3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

1) I'm not pushing a Sks build. It's a complicated stat that has other factors involved than being the best stat or keeping it below 940.

2) There are quite a few top (95%+) SAM with +1500 Sks. Again, I'm not to stack that but it's an alternate build people are working on. High uptime is needed or you lose dps so it's actually only top SAM that can pull it off in progression anyway.

3) Most of the top SAM parses use the 3 Sen opener if you check it. It isn't as great for TA but it works just as well for Embolden. It spikes and then lulls at 3 mins but lines up better for future raid cooldowns (including TA). The differences between the two even out fairly quickly even taking those CDs into account.

The 1 Sen clips very early on and even without stacking Sks, people will have to learn to if they don't get the right drops. By the next raid, the one will probably be dead.

[Ariyn]

2) There are quite a few top (95%+) SAM with +1500 Sks. Again, I'm not to stack that but it's an alternate build people are working on. High uptime is needed or you lose dps so it's actually only top SAM that can pull it off in progression anyway.

3) Most of the top SAM parses use the 3 Sen opener if you check it. It isn't as great for TA but it works just as well for Embolden. It spikes and then lulls at 3 mins but lines up better for future raid cooldowns (including TA). The differences between the two even out fairly quickly even taking those CDs into account.

2.) I've looked over every NA player working from parse #40 and going down on Susanno. Not 1 so far (that is actually in sam gear) is going SS. Not 1. So your theory on 95%+ is a stretch at best.

3.) It does work for embolden if your rdm is holding it for you to line up. Which sacrifices raid wide dps for your cd's to line to up. With a 1 sen you have a midare and guren at the start of embolden. Sure the rest of the fight you can line them up but on the opener you lose a good chunk of dmg.

I'm not telling anyone how to play their class but I won't sit by and watch others tell the general public false information. No matter how SS is "weighted" it's not the route to go currently. Really don't even see that changing in this expac. It may move to being crit heavy over DH but it won't be SS.

[Allyrion]

2.) I've looked over every NA player working from parse #40 and going down on Susanno. Not 1 so far (that is actually in sam gear) is going SS. Not 1. So your theory on 95%+ is a stretch at best.

3.) It does work for embolden if your rdm is holding it for you to line up. Which sacrifices raid wide dps for your cd's to line to up. With a 1 sen you have a midare and guren at the start of embolden. Sure the rest of the fight you can line them up but on the opener you lose a good chunk of dmg.

I'm not telling anyone how to play their class but I won't sit by and watch others tell the general public false information. No matter how SS is "weighted" it's not the route to go currently. Really don't even see that changing in this expac. It may move to being crit heavy over DH but it won't be SS.

Your methodology is full of assumptions here.
You seem to be checking Susano Ex runs then looking for those players on the lodestone to check their build, hoping:
1) They're even on their SAM
2) Their build is the same as when they did Susano Ex

You even compared Tandry to Bun Mi and assumed Tandry was even using an Sks build at the time of Susano. They're in completely different percentiles regardless of build.

I've seen high percentile parses for Susano EX but most of those have switched because of Sks builds require high uptime so its not as safe for progression. I've said that at the start. I could look for them a when I get home.

You seem to be full of agendas without any objectivity. You made a rant about Stat equality but made a rigid statement about Sks without explaining the other factors.
Btw, did you notice anything about Bun Mi's profile? Other than them wearing pants and feet with no stats.
It goes against your previous rant, they went straight DH>Det in melds.
How many high percentile SAM are you finding with equalized stats btw?

The numbers are still all being worked out for SAM, undoubtedly, but somehow you already have all the answers and are set in your ways. About equal stats, about low Sks and about the 1 Sen vs 3 Sen opener.

Btw for the last, 3 Sen doesn't miss Trick Attack's window completely and gains more Kenki afterwards. Embolden doesn't really need saving for it to work with 3 Sen, raid CDs shouldn't be popped on the first GCD anyway.

One Sen works better with TA, undoubtedly, but you are the one spreading misinformation here to any SAM who may not be able to lower their Sks. Under 940 or you're screwed - no they have an alternative that is basically even with the 1 Sen even with TA. If you're going to discuss something, you should regard all the conditions and there are a lot.

We do know that Sks technically has the highest weight for all the stats, but it is a complicated stat which is why DH>Det build is safer right now. It is affected by downtime in ways the others aren't. You can acknowledge both those things at the same time.

Personally, I use both openers depending on the encounter and recently we had a comp change so that affected it too. Also, just so you know, I don't even run a pure Sks build, I prioritize DH over it.

I'm not an advocate for anything because
1) The numbers are still being worked out
2) There are a million factors you should consider, including your team comp, the fight you're in and even your own playstyle or skill level.

You seem to have a much more narrow view.

[Ariyn]

You seem to be full of agendas without any objectivity. You made a rant about Stat equality but made a rigid statement about Sks without explaining the other factors.
Btw, did you notice anything about Bun Mi's profile? Other than them wearing pants and feet with no stats.
It goes against your previous rant, they went straight DH>Det in melds.
How many high percentile SAM are you finding with equalized stats btw?

To address this directly ...
Did I notice he had no crit melds? Yea I did. Did you notice his crit is even with his Det? So he doesn't need to meld crit ...

How many am I finding following the pattern I noted earlier this morning? Every one of them.

Any more brain busters?

[Allyrion]

To address this directly ...
Did I notice he had no crit melds? Yea I did. Did you notice his crit is even with his Det? So he doesn't need to meld crit ...

How many am I finding following the pattern I noted earlier this morning? Every one of them.

Any more brain busters?

They all meld DH > Det. It's hard to completely drop a stat and no one wants to particularly. Every one of them doesn't follow the pattern you have which is a lot more even. What they meld is what they made a conscious decision on right now since there's not a ton of gear options to min-max in the first week.
Also, you don't know his ratio if he was actually wearing pants and boots with stats, you only that he used the basic priority system everyone does.

But hey, I won't tell you how to play.