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    ToasterMan's Avatar
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    Yui Oshima
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    So I've just tried the omega dummy and I've gotten to around 3.9K as a Samurai. I'm ilevel 303. I've heard that the best was around 4.6K.

    Does anyone have any advice on what I could be doing better? I normally don't care about DPS jobs that much. But this one is different.
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    Nominous Lhant
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterMan View Post
    So I've just tried the omega dummy and I've gotten to around 3.9K as a Samurai. I'm ilevel 303. I've heard that the best was around 4.6K.

    Does anyone have any advice on what I could be doing better? I normally don't care about DPS jobs that much. But this one is different.
    For one, you're looking at 4.5k if you're at item level 314 (gear does play a pretty decent role, especially the weapon). Two, different fights have different HP values as far as SSS goes. And the lower the HP, the quicker it's killed, the higher DPS you'll see. So perhaps Omega's values are a little higher than Susan's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    For one, you're looking at 4.5k if you're at item level 314 (gear does play a pretty decent role, especially the weapon). Two, different fights have different HP values as far as SSS goes. And the lower the HP, the quicker it's killed, the higher DPS you'll see. So perhaps Omega's values are a little higher than Susan's.
    Oh I'm able to finish the omega dummy at i303. My best so far is finishing with 12 seconds on the clock.
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    Player Jeckyl_Tesla's Avatar
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    Cap'n Jack
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    IS there a general Samurai discord by the way?
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Theoretically, how long of a GCD recast / skill speed amount should we aim for? From the new gearset we are looking at we can go as low as 600sks range, I'd like to believe it to be a DPS Loss instead
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    Butta Stackz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyfrost View Post
    Theoretically, how long of a GCD recast / skill speed amount should we aim for? From the new gearset we are looking at we can go as low as 600sks range, I'd like to believe it to be a DPS Loss instead
    I'd like to know the minimum SS needed as well. Going from 800-600 feels much slower and for wtv reasons doesn't feel like the tradeoff is worth.

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    Syn Stormblade
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    I'd like to know the minimum SS needed as well. Going from 800-600 feels much slower and for wtv reasons doesn't feel like the tradeoff is worth.
    Aye! I second the motion.
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    Adriosh Wolfer
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    there is no "min" SS, 1 sen opener does not like SS and will break quickly with too much, and 3 sen is more forgiving with high amounts of SS, and unless you stack sksp as your build you should not be close to breaking it.
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adriosh View Post
    there is no "min" SS, 1 sen opener does not like SS and will break quickly with too much, and 3 sen is more forgiving with high amounts of SS, and unless you stack sksp as your build you should not be close to breaking it.
    According to Dervy, the 3 Sen breaks at around 1785 Sks which isn't really attainable.
    The 1 Sen breaks over 940isb, I think.
    As you said, there is no minimum.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 07-20-2017 at 07:38 AM.

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    We have Shifu, so I can't see it mattering much.

    Also! I'll update the front page soon with the new thread showing stat importance and such. It's basically what we've said, in that you want to prioritize DH. Determination=Skillspeed until you hit about 1700 Crit at which point, Crit is better than both of them. Since we'll have the breakpoint for Crit over Det/SS with this gearset, you'll probably want to focus on just Crit/DH.
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