Is Dissipation really that bad?

[Claymore65]

Keep in mind, another reason people don't tend to like Dissipation is for thematic reasons. Many players chose to play Scholar because of the Fairy. They enjoy playing a pet-class mixed with a healer. Getting rid of that pet, even if it's only for a short while, makes the Job less fun for those players. Dissipation gets rid of your pet, has anti-synergy with Fey Union, has non-intuitive interactions with your aetherflow abilities (since it doesn't boost their healing), and lastly requires you to spend both a fair bit of mana and a use of swift-cast to get back to full capacity once its over. It hurts not only the "class fantasy" of scholar, but also has a lot of major downsides.

It's more useful than it immediately seems, but it's still not an especially fun ability to use, especially as a level 60 capstone. Obviously, your mileage may vary on those points. Some players will certainly enjoy Dissipation, but many do not.

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

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Ok sure and I responded with as you quoted "What are y'all spending mana on?" Nowhere did i speak on another's intellect the question stands if you can use dissipation, (the add on through dialogue) you apparently have enough mana because: you have like 3 spells to spend it on. I did listen and I do what most innovators do and that's ask further questions. Ok your mana falls or takes a hit!? how do we solve or acquiesce that in the current meta.

All I've seen are scholars belly-aching this whole time for changes that hardly need to be made when one properly explores the class. NO we aren't perfect. YES Dissipation has its flaws. Is it useless? Definitley not. Does it still take up a spot in our hotbar or job abilities? YES. If we don't try to solve the issue on our own SCH's are just gonna wait around for another patch in the hopes our Deus Ex Machina falls from the sky. My question is and remains boiled down to:

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

Is Dissipation really that bad, and can something be used to alleviate the burden brought about by it.

[Xandos]

The reason it's useless to me? I have never been in a situation that I needed to use it. I don't do any raiding and rarely do extreme trials. I haven't found any normal content that I need such an extreme emergency button. As people have pointed out it can be useful in some extreme situations but its definitely not an every day use skill.

As for a rework or redesign or constructive criticism there are a couple things i could suggest.

1. Your fairy casts Embrace on the same target you cast any single target heal on.
2. Your fairy's Embrace also adds a shield that works like Adlo.
3. Make some sort of copy of Ast Collective Unconscious or Whm Asylum.
4. Your fairy channels its power into you for X seconds. This heals you for X Potency, Refreshes you for X Potency, and generates X Aetherflow stacks
5. Treat it like the summoner's Bahamut summon.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

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I dont understand what you want xD
Where did we say Sch sucks? I love suck, I even posted on all the salt threads that sch is good even before the patch.
It looks like u are trying to prove you love scholar and we hate it, I dont understand it.

And in progression you will need mana, you have to rez a lot! And was it is on farm its w/e because the fight is already done.
When we need our best kit of skills and concentration is always on progression and is when we need MP the most.

Personally I think the skill sucks, I problably wont use it.

The job in other hand is my main since First Coil of Bahamut and will still be it at Omega Savage (everything besides savage content is not worthable talking about because you can do it just with physicks or cure)

[paoweeotter]

also don't take heed to SChs who use the argument "you'll use up more mana reaummoning the fairy." that is 100% FALSE.

say you use dissipation for a largessed deployed adlo with rouse plus whispering dawn ticking on the raid. thay is MORE than enough contribution from you so thay any bit of HP left should be HANDLED by your co healer.

example:

you use absolutely ZERO MP and mitigate at the VERY least 7000 HP times 8 people for a total of 56000 HP. without using a single drop of mana. (7000 HP is how much my adlo heals for with largess and dissipation)

If Adlo crits for 11k that's a 22,000 shield on the raid for a total of 176,000 HP. take a small second and let that sink in. And how much does a fairy summon cost again in MP?

FURTHERMORE you get Three aetherstacks that you can use for Energy Drains to give 1200 MP x 3. and becauss of the new buffed aethertrait you can burn your stacks and get a faster aetherflow for more mana. and you have lucid dreaming on top of that too.

tldr dissipation isn't useless. you just have to use it right.

[Jerichai]

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LOL. First paragraph you claim you haven't called anyone stupid, then immediately proclaims in the second paragraph that anyone who doesn't like dissipation must not be intelligent enough to understand SCH. Okay buddy. Also nice ego self proclaiming yourself an innovator...in a video game.

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

It's not that I'm trying to say the skill needs to be used, part of this thread is playing Devil's advocate because from what I've read people don't want to don't know how to, or just don't use this skill as optimally as possible. This in turn leads to guides, builds, threads completely ignoring it's existence and it just occupying a hole on my hotbar. Yes it costs mana to resummon the fairy that is a reality we can't avoid, but so many are ready to face a future without AF stacks that they'd just spam physick (at least what I assume) for some odd number of seconds (usually around 20 after screwing up) struggling to keep everyone alive.

The reality is that it exists, the fallacy is that it has absolutely no use at all which new SCH players will take as fact instead of experiementing with it.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

You can do all the same thing without dissipation and its only 20% less on tje adlo. It is a mp loss

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

LOL. First paragraph you claim you haven't called anyone stupid, then immediately proclaims in the second paragraph that anyone who doesn't like dissipation must not be intelligent enough to understand SCH. Okay buddy. Also nice ego self proclaiming yourself an innovator...in a video game.

Again no words directly attacking anyone? Maybe have a conversation with your own ego about why you're so hurt over my very benign responses? Also yes you can innovate in a video game that's how guides and personal builds are created. Without innovation you'd still be using Adlo to heal all incoming damage rather than paying attention to your fairy, using rouse, whispering dawn and whatever else mitigation mechanics you possess.