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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowakii View Post
    The problem is not that "i dont have enough mana to re summon the faerie" the problem is "Mp you spent on dissipation could be easily used on your basic heals, and you can get more heals from it + Having the faerie"
    Again what are you spending mana on? Of course you wouldn't summon the fairy while your tank is getting mauled but when put into perspective your fairy is indeed more mana-efficient than anything we can pull off undissipated. For myself I'm contemplating just reserving Swiftcast usage around Dissipation when I foresee complications and saying "sucks to suck" to dps that dick around and get killed during mechanics. Plus rezzing with fairy out is optimal.
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    I mean no offense but what are you guys casting that needs so much mana? Could there be a possible workaround such as planning LD usage around it? I know I myself rarely tend to run out of mana and instead options during these episodes. (ie. emergency tactics & Indom on cd leaving my only viable AF skills of note to be lustrate or Energy Drain to gain mana back.) I'm rarely spamming physick at this point and if I am only, because it's THE most mana-efficient thing on my hotbar. By the end of Dissipation I'm left with enough mana to swiftcast my fairy back into being unless I had to waste it on someone who died recently to a mechanic of some sort (usually dps because I like to keep my tanks floating somewhere around 75%).

    Like is there anyone in this game who actually finds the skill usable at least marginally and has a gameplan set up in the case that it NEEDS to be used, and how best effectively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpiusO-Ra-E View Post
    I mean no offense but what are you guys casting that needs so much mana? Could there be a possible workaround such as planning LD snip
    nothing really they're probably spamming succor or adlo and teammates getting hit by mechanics. djsiipation has it's downsides but that's not to say it's a weak and useless ability. you have to find ways to use it and it's not bad once you learn the fight. I try to use it when I can. I've only done o1s and o2s and there's PLENTY of downtime and transition phases that I can afford to hardcast summoning the fairy back.

    that said I mostly use the fey illumination/covenant > dissipated largessed deployed adlo combo . adding sacred soil here and there. it's godly when it crits. I've gotten as high as 15K adlo crit lol. the tanks barely took any damage during Twinbolt:]]

    I like dissipation. fits the whole tactical and pre planning niche of the sCH. don t listen to the Doom and gloom you often see in the forums. especially NOW 4.05 when all healers are fine/viable/ desireable/not useless
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    Last edited by paoweeotter; 07-21-2017 at 02:01 AM.

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    Vann Leon
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    Dissipation is quite amazing if you can utilize it. The mana cost is minimal - a bit more than a succor. Thou it needs to sync with swiftcast and aetherflow remaining cd which can require a lot of planning :P
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    Wow owner of truth. Never i said i ran out of mans frequently lol but it happens on progression of raids.
    And is so something i dont think its usefull (at least before) i have cleared all raids and prob use it some 20 times at most.


    Now with the new trait i can see people using it morw but still, it isnt our needed skill and still havent use on omega savage
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    Noah Orih
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    Like the others have been saying, the problem with Disappointment is that it's challenging to make up for the lost aid of the faerie, and having to re summon her takes time and MP (Something that SCHs have a harder time with in Stormblood).

    I have an interesting suggestion that might turn Disappointment into a better skill. Rather than the way it currently works, I'd like to see it swap your faerie and provide a buff to you and to her.
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    SE is definitely never gonna change LOL "Dissapointment's" function at least I don't see it as so. They don't have enough incentive to. SCH is meant to be played with planning and responses to mechanics rather than reactions which lead to mistakes because we have finite resources. The only thing I see the fairy good for is additional dps time, sure while she's away I'm healing like a chicken cut my head off but physick heals more than embrace, and if you use Largesse you'll actually find that you have down-time (which for me is definitely very awkward.) The only thing we essentially lack is aoe healing capability, which we only get 2 to use at a time.

    Dissipation is an emergency button, but so many scholars are afraid or so averse to using it when it's usage is indeed viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpiusO-Ra-E View Post

    Dissipation is an emergency button, but so many scholars are afraid or so averse to using it when it's usage is indeed viable.
    I think it will be more usable because its a 15 less seconds for aetherflow.
    Personally I beat V1S without any need of it, and I hope I dont have to use it on the future lol I dont like the skill.
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    Connor Whelan
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    I don't think Dissipation is bad, the main problem with it is that you'll very rarely run into situations that warrant using it.
    I understand that this is part of the 'strategic and situational' identity of Scholar, having abilities that can only realise their full potential when used as part of a specific strategy. The problem with this is that it's difficult to get a decent payoff from using it, even in situations where it could be warranted
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpiusO-Ra-E View Post
    Again what are you spending mana on? Of course you wouldn't summon the fairy while your tank is getting mauled but when put into perspective your fairy is indeed more mana-efficient than anything we can pull off undissipated. For myself I'm contemplating just reserving Swiftcast usage around Dissipation when I foresee complications and saying "sucks to suck" to dps that dick around and get killed during mechanics. Plus rezzing with fairy out is optimal.
    So what's the point of this thread if you're just going to outright dismiss the opinions of SCHs that disagree with your own?
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