Is Dissipation really that bad?

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

In SCH threads I see Dissipation getting a lot of flack for being an abysmal skill, which I can understand for the reasoning that it takes out our mighty healing turret out of commision for a good 30 seconds and only provides a barely useful 20% healing pot. buff.

My qualms with this attitude is that I never see any constructive feedback for the skill as it already exists. Because I don't like seeing skills just collect dust on my hotbar I tend to pop it when I've successfully exhausted all of my AF stacks and manage to still have another 30 seconds until I get another, rather than hope beyond hope that physick and Embrace can keep your tank from being razed to the ground by sustained fire from a mob or boss.

So my question is for those who use Dissipation. How and when do you use it? Is there an optimal time, do you plan like 10 seconds ahead? And how do you make the best of your time in it?

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

I myself always make sure to pop largesse after eating my fairy which grants just enough shield pot. to let me cast another spell before the tank starts falling again.

Things I'm aware of:

- AF unaffected by pot. boost
- Mp cost of succor and Adlo (Your shielding spells which are affected by Pot. boost) are still very much expensive.
- The skill clashes with Fey Union (Which I still haven't bothered to retrieve yet, give me reasons why and I might.)

[Clouse_Cleyra]

The skill is not bad because u lost ur fairy on the transition, is bad because the MP cost to re-call your fairy is not worth it.
Only usables scenario is chaos happening and u dont have aetherflows nor MP to heal over a raid-wide aoe dmg (but if u dont have MP u wont be able to re-call the fairy later on)

So yeah, dissipation sucks, it may have a very situational use but besides that it doesnt.

[RyuDragnier]

The skill isn't good because you have to spend the MP cost to resummon the fairy. If it worked like summoning Bahamut, where the fairy comes back after it ends, then it'd be far more useable (and I for one would be WILLING to use it often).

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

I imagine that there is at least one SCH with godly mp-management skills somewhere around here.

[Nowakii]

I imagine that there is at least one SCH with godly mp-management skills somewhere around here.

The problem is not that "i dont have enough mana to re summon the faerie" the problem is "Mp you spent on dissipation could be easily used on your basic heals, and you can get more heals from it + Having the faerie"

[ScorpiusO-Ra-E]

nothing really they're probably spamming succor or adlo and teammates getting hit by mechanics. djsiipation has it's downsides but that's not to say it's a weak and useless ability. you have to find ways to use it and it's not bad once you learn the fight. I try to use it when I can. I've only done o1s and o2s and there's PLENTY of downtime and transition phases that I can afford to hardcast summoning the fairy back.

that said I mostly use the fey illumination/covenant > dissipated largessed deployed adlo combo . adding sacred soil here and there. it's godly when it crits. I've gotten as high as 15K adlo crit lol. the tanks barely took any damage during Twinbolt:]]

This is what I'm looking for it's definitely not as useless as everyone seems to think it's like SCH overdrive (well when used with largesse anyway.)

[paoweeotter]

This is what I'm looking for it's definitely not as useless as everyone seems to think it's

people love to exaggerate. also I posted a follow up in my recent post regarding the MP argument. just a tip for you since people here are set in their ways.

use dissipation with largesse and with deployed adlo. that's the optimal way to use it. even better when your fairy abilities are on CD.

if you are preparing for a raid wide Aoe mechanic, pre cast your fairy abilities so they are up before you dissipate. FEY covenant first for the 20% magic damage down buff and then fey illumination plus largesse THEN Dissipate.

Don't waste the three aether dissipate gives you. For this I suggest popping sacred soil and excog

"rotation" for incoming raid damage

sacred soil > excog to get rid of any aether
rouse plus whispering dawn
fey covenant
largess > fey ilumination
dissipate
adlo > deploy
estimated damage mitigated is 76,000 HP. if crit you mitigate 176,000 HP (given you have a 7000 HP adlo heal)

ALWAYS use 100% of your toolkit and find ways to make use of all your abilities to make the other healers job easier. that's the fun in being a SCH.

going through a Susano sword phase and seeing everyone's HP at full is fun

[Rivxkobe]

This is what I'm looking for it's definitely not as useless as everyone seems to think it's like SCH overdrive (well when used with largesse anyway.)

Woah woah woah. Wait a minute.

Why would you make a thread asking if it is good, if you are only looking for answers that fit your agenda (in this case, that dissapation is good)? Everyone else had legitimate reasons why they dislike it but you didn't like those answers so they weren't "correct".

Seriously dude...

[paoweeotter]

The problem is not that "i dont have enough mana to re summon the faerie" the problem is "Mp you spent on dissipation could be easily used on your basic heals, and you can get more heals from it + Having the faerie"

Not true. rouse whispering dawn fey ilum/covenant with largessed dissipated deployed adlo will save you more MP than healing the raid with succor.

and you get 3 extra aether stacks too instead of spending one on the following indom if you hadn't used dissipated largessed adlo.