4.05 - Tank DPS comparison

[Falar]

Calm down, don't shout.

You're ignoring the opportunity cost of Bloodgauge every time you use Bloodspiller.

Every time you use Bloodspiller, you're losing out on 3.33 Bloodgauge. If we take the remainder of Bloodspiller's potency over the average GCD, it's 143.34. You divide this by 50 to obtain the potency per Bloodgauge, which is 2.8668. Now you multiply this by 3.33 and you get 9.546. Add this to your math.

It's a marginal loss. Less than before, but still a loss.



I don't see how since you can still easily proc Delirium in the first BW window, if you open with BW.

This is one of the reasons I really want to see Bloodspiller off the GCD. That way it no longer has an MP or Blood "opportunity cost" associated with it.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Well it doesn't change the fact that WAR rotation is still very disrupted by mechanics and it'll take a bit more time before people optimize for the fight.
PLD rotation is like driving with every red lights turned green and with a gps telling you where to go...

I don't see that being an issue, they wouldn't have been able to clear v3s by now if his rotation was not on point.

[DWolfwood]

This is one of the reasons I really want to see Bloodspiller off the GCD. That way it no longer has an MP or Blood "opportunity cost" associated with it.

This would have changed everything, yeah.

[Machka]

I don't see how since you can still easily proc Delirium in the first BW window, if you open with BW.

I think they're referring to using TBN early on to get the instant 50 blood. Applies both when tanking and OT on pull, since you could throw TBN on MT (and be virtually guaranteed to proc b/c it would only be a 10% shield).

[Falar]

This would have changed everything, yeah.

And to avoid having to double weave EVERY CnS AND Bloodspiller just make CnS native 450 pot. For an added effect let it do a big hp return in grit or something.

[DWolfwood]

And to avoid having to double weave EVERY CnS and Bloodspiller just make CnS native 450 pot. For an added effect let it do a big hp return in grit or something.

Yeah, as it is C&S is just another ability in need of a fix. It's only use without DA is in AoE, and I really don't think AoE should be DRK's only forte.

[Falar]

Yeah, as it is C&S is just another ability in need of a fix. It's only use without DA is in AoE, and I really don't think AoE should be DRK's only forte.

Agreed. Bloodspiller has usurped it as our "ST nuke" ability

[Reynhart]

Every time you use Bloodspiller, you're losing out on 3.33 Bloodgauge. If we take the remainder of Bloodspiller's potency over the average GCD, it's 143.34. You divide this by 50 to obtain the potency per Bloodgauge, which is 2.8668. Now you multiply this by 3.33 and you get 9.546. Add this to your math.

That doesn't make any sense. There is no "potency per blood gauge". The only potency your Blood Gauge offers is by using Bloodspiller.

[Falar]

That doesn't make any sense. There is no "potency per blood gauge". The only potency your Blood Gauge offers is by using Bloodspiller.

You assume 50 blood = 400 pot (out of grit) or 475 Pot (in grit).

From there it is easy to extrapolate pot/blood. Souleater grants 10 blood so anything that pushes it back a GCD costs potency.

[Reynhart]

You assume 50 blood = 400 pot (out of grit) or 475 Pot (in grit).

50 blood = 400 potency if you use Bloodspiller, that is to say, the very thing he claimed to be a DPS loss. You can't advocate not using BloodSpiller to faster accumulate gauge...for your next Bloodspiller.